Error ASE?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by wcoins, May 18, 2016.

  1. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    Look under the S, what is that? Untitled.jpg

    Coin is uncirculated so I doubt it's PMD.

    Thoughts?
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It could be a strikethrough, but just because it is uncirculated does not mean that it can't be PMD. Even if it were in an Airtite (which yours isn't) it could be easily removed and damaged afterward.

    Personally, I'm leaning toward a strikethrough, but I would still like a better close-up. Your photo is too blurry.

    Chris
     
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  4. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    I know it's not the best picture, that's all my camera can do :(

    It can be enlarged if you click on it, if any help.

    What is a strike through? Like a piece of debris got caught up?
     
  5. brandon spiegel

    brandon spiegel Brandon Spiegel

    The m looks cool!
     
  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I did use the "enlarge" function. The problem is that all it does is enlarge the "blur".

    A strikethrough can be almost any object that falls onto the planchet before it is struck. Once the die strikes the foreign object, its shape is impressed into the planchet. Sometimes, it remains embedded and is called a "retained strikethrough" but most often it falls out once the coin is ejected from the coining chamber.

    Chris
     
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  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Ase's are plagued with minor strikethroughs. Usually it's a small brush wire that looks like a strand of hair or scratch while some can look like large gouges. Yours falls somewhere in between if it is one and it looks like a good possibility
     
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Were it not for the fact that there is no corresponding letter on the design of the coin, I'd say it was struck through a dropped letter.

    If it was struck through a dropped letter that would be a pretty big deal.
     
  9. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    To piggyback off what @cpm9ball said about being uncirculated. It doesn't mean much. May I present to you the 2013 ASE suicide hit:

    S20160305_001.jpg S20160305_002.jpg S20160305_003.jpg S20160305_004.jpg



     
  10. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

  11. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    That's what the slab says. Should I send it back?
     
  12. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Depends on your definition of "70." For my definition, a struck-through coin cannot be a 70.
     
  13. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Does ANACS have a complaint hot-line? I'm being facetious of course. That hit or struck thru is the reason I bought it. I bought the coin (this time), not the slab.
     
  14. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I would have, too. It's like the counterfeit you willingly buy because you know you'll get miles from it in forums for years to come. :)
     
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  15. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    I don't want the hijack this thread but I think it ran its course.

    I understand terms mint error and PMD. I often wondered if a mint product is proven or obviously damaged during packaging, intentionally or malicious damage, mislabeled, a mint employees big fat fingerprint on a commemorative sealed coin, mint/proof sets with the wrong denominations, etc.. "before" it left the mint, you would think it would be a mint error. But I guess it would just be a nice conversation piece.
     
  16. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    That ANACS coin was sold by HSN at start of 2013. They had to grade 12k coins within days. Mistakes happen.
     
  17. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    What letter are you thinking?
     
  18. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Really? Interesting. That coin was sold by the HSN? I didn't know that. Thanks for that information.
     
  19. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    It looks most like an "N" to me.
     
  20. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    The term Mint Error refers to a mistake that happens during the actual STRIKING of the coin, not anything that may happen within the building known as The Mint. Many coins get damaged before they leave the building but that is just damage.

    Richard
     
  21. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    I know. I do understand that. Your point is well taken. But you would think, if a mint product was damaged before it left the mint (while still in the mints possession), it would (or should) be called a mint error. If the product didn't leave the mint as intended.......Well, I guess they do have a return policy.

    With that said, I kinda like looking for the unusual anomalies coming from the mint anyway.
     
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