Hello new to the site, need a opinion.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Burntwynn5, May 18, 2016.

  1. Burntwynn5

    Burntwynn5 New Member

    Though I honestly do not think it is silver. It was in a box with mixed coins a lot of copper and nickel coins. So that would explain the green on it. The edge is not filed and no line. I can't get a decent picture of the edge to put on here. I have seen the forgery lines on other sights and see none on this coin even with a magnifying glass.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    This is the Ancients board :)
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Just from the image alone, I can see no real problem with the coin. Do you have a magnet? Check to see if it is attracted to it. Just a simple test.
     
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  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Yeah, a lot of ancient old timers like me who don't know where they are.:facepalm::shame:
     
  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Welcome @Burntwynn5 !!!

    I wish I could confirm authenticity, but I can't......and I must confess it looks a bit off from what I expect to see stylistically---but often that is just personal unfamiliarity among so many variations. I hope it's genuine !!
     
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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    If you do not believe it is real and you sell it on eBay, some buyer will come to that same opinion and return it under a Paypal/eBay guarantee. Be sure or sell it to a dealer who believes.

    The coin could be silver and still be fake but, if it is not silver, it must be fake. A small scratch on the edge might tell it is time to give up if copper is seen or proceed questioning if it looks silver. Either way the photo looks wrong (my guess) so you at least need a better image.

    I do not like the edge. From what I see in the photo, I would never suggest it is genuine but photos fool easily. People who believe that you can authenticate a coin certainly from a photo are often wrong. In this case, I would take the coin to a show with specialist ancient dealers and see how may offers you get. If I were a betting man, I'd bet <1. If I were bidding on eBay based on the photo, same number.
     
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  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    PLEASE, PLEASE, don't scratch the edge of the coin! That's what specific gravity tests are for...LOL. I realize you may not be familiar with this but go slowly. First what does the edge look like (Post#19)?
     
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  9. Burntwynn5

    Burntwynn5 New Member

    To late :( Strange thing was at first it was gold in color so I automatically thought FAKE! Then underneath that it is silver toned and shiny. I went to a neighbor's figuring he would have a gram scale... for reasons I won't state on here. Anyways the coin weighs 8.54g not sure if that is good or bad but someone asked so I thought it might be important.
     
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  10. Burntwynn5

    Burntwynn5 New Member

    Oh and this edge is smooth no circle around but it has one ragged uh, best I can describe cut?
     
  11. Burntwynn5

    Burntwynn5 New Member

    Also it is NOT magnetized at all. I have a crazy strong magnet and there was no attraction, so I do know that is a good sign because of other coins I have had.
     
  12. Burntwynn5

    Burntwynn5 New Member

    I am wondering as I have come across it before with colonial coins if someone plated over the silver with gold. Does that happen a lot with ancient coins? Also if it helps I know the coin has not been touched in 50 years. Still not sure if it is truly silver though as I do not want to mess with it more than I have.
     
  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    More photos of the coin would certainly help-out the coin-gang (a few edge-shots if possible)

    => good luck (I hope it's a winner)
     
  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    If it weighs 8.5 and based on relative size it is most likely silver. it would be lighter if it were bronze. I must admit I dont like the coin for whatever that is worth.
     
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  15. Burntwynn5

    Burntwynn5 New Member

    You don't like it how? You think it's fake or just don't like the coin in general. Not meaning to sound snooty really want to know as I have zero knowledge on ancient coins.
     
  16. Burntwynn5

    Burntwynn5 New Member

    Going to look for a dealer in these kind of coins this weekend. I don't feel comfortable putting it up for auction even if someone here said it was authentic as it seems very hard if not impossible to authenticate with pictures and mine are not the best. Thanks everyone! I will update after I know something for sure.
     
  17. Burntwynn5

    Burntwynn5 New Member

    One last question, is soaking it in acetone to remove all the crud a good idea, or should I leave it alone?
     
  18. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    It is a photo....which I almost always buy coins from...

    I see enough of the coin that I would pass over it - there is no doubt the coin looks odd stylistically but that does not rule out authentic but I am not authority enough to condemn the coin, but I am authority enough to say it is not for me.
     
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  19. Burntwynn5

    Burntwynn5 New Member

    Thanks for the input. I too am doubting that it is authentic after looking at many pictures of the real deals all afternoon. Good news if it is a fake at least it is worth the melt amount.
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Acarnania with Bucranium
    Athena & Pegasus AR Corinthian Stater

    300-250 B.C.
    Mint: Anactorium
    Diameter: 22.3 mm
    Weight: 8.53 grams
    Obverse: Pegasus with pointed wing flying left, mint mark AN monogram below
    Reverse: Head of Athena left, wearing Corinthian helmet over leather cap, magistrate’s names KΛE above and monogram below, mint mark AN monogram and control-symbol filleted bucranium behind
    Reference: BMC (Corinth and Colonies) p. 119, 49-53 and pl, XXXII, 9; cf. Sear (Greek Coins & Their Values I) 2254-5 for other staters of this series with different magistrates’ names and symbols

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    Hi again (yah, I can't sleep)

    ummm, here is my example (authenticated by David Sear ... he's a coin guru) and your coin (merely for comparison)

    NOTE: my example has a different "symbol" behind Athena's head, but there are several different symbols, so that isn't really a factor

    ... again, I think the coin has a fairly good chance of being okay (or David Sear is a fool and both of 'em are garbage!!)
     
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  21. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Don't soak it in anything for now. Can you post a magnified photo of the horse's rump and the patch of discoloration at 12 on the obverse so we can see the crystallization?
     
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