Couldn't buy them all, so.....

Guys, keep a lid on this thread. You can talk about the token and the maker, but be fair ( applies to both sides). I assume that Carr is not doing it for the flattery alone, both are doing it for the money, and both seem to be selling out.

 

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They never last long. He did mention on CU that hes thinking of doing a proof version of the Owl so you may get another shot at a different version of it.

 

Is it considered political to criticize the US Mint now? I think it is a perfectly fair statement to say the US Mint would not be producing these coins if it weren't going to bring in a lot of money. And, while Dan Carr certainly needs to make a living, I'm reasonably sure his primary motivation is not profit. The difference is I think Dan Carr might make these coins anyway, even if they weren't going to be highly profitable, whereas the US Mint would not.

I think the main difference is that the Moonlight Mint only strikes a couple hundred coins per die. The US Mint strikes thousands. There's a big difference between what's doable at artisanal scale for one guy and a surplus press vs what's doable at industrial scale where you have to pay a ton of people and maintain a lot of equipment.

 

Well he IS using an older Denver mint press. Just doesn't have that "modern minting technique". All he can get are sharp strikes.

 

Nope, he doesn't. He's running an artisanal operation that produces ~200 pcs per issue. The US mint is running an industrial operation that produces anywhere from thousands to billions of coins per issue. Very different animals.

 

Did you see the smiley? It was a joke.

 

The number of pieces being struck is not the issue.

Remember, we're talking about commemorative pieces here, not business strikes. These pieces have large premiums built in. This has nothing to do with something like keeping the cost of making a cent less than one cent (reference: "...billions of coins")

Only the will to make a quality product vs. the will to make maximum profit factors into the final product.

If the US Mint "can't" strike a full design in 125,000(?) soft gold planchettes it isn't due to physics or a lack of ability. It is due to a lack of will.