(As promised) to match Steve and rrdenarius on the 'other' thread, here is my L. Papius. (There seems to be great numbers of this coin out there - see Wildwinds - with the prime difference being what is found below the Griffin making the difference in attribution.) L. PAPIUS. Serrate Denarius (79 BC). Rome. Obv: Head of Juno Sospita right, wearing goat’s skin; jug behind. Rev: L PAPI. (in ex.) Griffin springing right, palm branch below. Crawford 384/1.
I wish I collected these, but I don't. Maybe sometime in the future. But anyway, this link is always worth trotting out when there's an L. Papius thread: http://www.bonannocoins.com/l_papius/l_papius_db.php According to the table in the link, the ampulla/palm-branch combination represents the athletes 'trade guild'.
Hey Zumbly. Thanks my friend. Soooooo very interesting. Under the Griffin is not the only thing that can be used to 'reference' Behind the head of Juno Sospita also changes just as frequently. WOW! Thanks for the link. Athletics, eh? 65.00 1 AND they don't have a photo - they do now!
Hey TC, no need to thank me. I had no idea who else was bidding. I wish I could see who was bidding on any particular coin, but, if there is a way, I have no idea how to see it. Regardless, I just decided to bid on another coin and couldn't afford both on my budget.
Love that variety @Topcat7 !!!! They are so much more interesting than a 'common' Roma/Chariot type. Congrats!!!! I picked up a 'device(s) variation months ago .....one having Juno Sospita and another having a 'sphinx', (looked like a griffith to me LOL) but NOT both on the same coin or attributed to Papius:
I have around 20 of the Papius variants. I saw this one but decided to pass on it and save my money for another some day though I have bought far worse. This is one of my nicer ones... L Papius Denarius Serratus Obv:– Head of Juno Sospita right, wearing goat skin tied under chin. Behind head, owl Rev:– Gryphon running right; in ex., L. PAPI.; in field, crow with open wings or eagle Minted in Rome from . B.C. 79. Reference(s) – RSC Papia 1. RRC 384/1. RCTV 311. Symbol variety – RRC 76. Babelon 76. BMCRR 12.
Hi all. Dumb question for all the ancient collectors out there. I'm a US collector but I did send away for uncleaned ancients, just for the experience of cleaning and trying to ID them. My question is, if purchasing a common, low priced coin, how does the inexperienced know it's not a fake? Besides 1. experience, which most likely will not happen if just a casual collector, 2. patina, which I would think could be applied, and 3. purchasing from a reputable dealer, is there any dead giveaways?
