Weak-Strike Ike... Grade?

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  1. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

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  3. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    The way you check the die state on these is how close the " E " is to the " W " in We ......

    Looks like a late die state to me ...
     
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  4. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Huh, I didn't know that. This coin is actually the peg leg with the beveled field above the head as pictured on the ike group peg leg page rick. An ms65 example sold on the bay for $95 so I'm wondering if this will make it with the weak strike or will it be relegated to 64 like morgans. Or is it an au58. I'm not good enough to tell if it's a 58 or 64/5 on weak strike ike. It did come from a bu roll

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  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Either way it's worth an ANACS trip . Last show I turned in 4 Ikes and 5 Morgans, with a wide rim 1979 Susan B .
    All for a 100 dollars and the variety are free with this submission too .

    10 silver dollars for 100 bucks and that's a deal in a half .
     
  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I have a hard time reaching 65 for it, but I may just be biased. :)
     
  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I wonder if I should give him a quick dip in the blue pool
     
  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I wouldn't, no need to open old wounds, that time has covered up ...
     
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  9. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Meh. Doubtful it'll do much for what's on it, although it wouldn't hurt either way.

    I was astonished at what I was seeing in 63 & 64 slabs when researching grade (I'm not capable of grading Ikes offhand). The TPG's appear to be pretty lenient on this one.
     
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  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    You have to pick and choose those Peg Legs, that's for sure ..
     
  11. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Not sure I follow what you mean by that rick.
     
  12. BrianS

    BrianS Active Member


    So closer the "E" is to the "W", the later the die state?
     
  13. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Some peg legs are worth looking for and other ain't ...
     
  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Early the die state ...
     
  15. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Here's some info and it's for the OP coin too:

    All die's are polished before use.
    Each stage represented below, have varying degrees of Die State. Early. Mid. Late. Very Late die states. As copies come in we will be adding information (die states) for each DDO/DDR sent in. This is a long term project and will take some time to complete.



    Obverse stage AA: Close WE ( W & E touch ) the die is polished and can be lightly abraded at this stage.. ( Space between the W and E of WE touch or very close too touching one another, a residue bridge may be seen between the WE due to polishing at this stage.

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    Obverse stage A: Close WE.. Die is abraded and polished at this stage, ( Space between the W & E of WE are close too each other but do not touch, also the edges of the WE are well defined )

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    Obverse stage B: Semi close WE ( Space seen between the W & E of WE ) dies may have been polished multiple times at this stage, abraded at least once, the edges of W & E are not defined very well from polishings, general note, because of die abrasion and polishings many letters are not crisp and have loss of detail.

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    Obverse stage C: Open WE ( The W & E of WE now have a wider space between them ) the letters W & E of WE can be weak at the tops of both letters due to abrading and polishings. some letters show weakness towards the center ( head ) on occasion the weakness is seen towards the rim ( Tops of letters )

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    Obverse stage D: Open W E.. at this stage the die has been polished & abraded more then the above stages, the space between the W & E is wide now and the WE can be lightly deformed at this stage.

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    Obverse strike E: Only ( Wide open W E in We, the letters can be well deformed and far apart from each other due to die abrasion and polishing ) some doubled die's can not be attributed at this stage.
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    Obverse stage F: Same description as above with the space between the W E even wider apart from each other then LDS, well deformed due to die abrasion and polishing s, many smaller doubled die's at this stage are unidentifiable, only stronger doubled die's are recognizable at this stage.

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    Obverse stage G: Information is same as above, space between the W E position is wider apart then stage F.

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    Above die in stage G is IDDDO-81.

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    Obverse stage G: 1972 S Proof has same distance between the W E as the above 1971 S proof.

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  16. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I'd go MS63 on the coin above due to the fact that ole IKE got his ear pierced and we can't have that! Nope!

    The hair is a bit weak and I'm not so sure I buy into the E to the W thing for die state.

    But each to his own.

    IKE 1972-D PegLeg 16700452 PCGS MS66 Slab Obv.jpg

    IKE 1972-D PegLeg 16700452 PCGS MS66 Coin.jpg

    I plucked this one off of Teletrade for $129 total. I've since sold it.
     
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  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    The only problem here is that the guide is using Proof Coins which have a different manufacturing method than business strikes. 2 Strikes to 1 Strike under high tonnage.
     
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  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Just a illustration of what to look for in early die states, that's all Lee and I know your the man on these .
     
  19. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Damn, I didn't even notice his ear. I was so messmerized by the thick roller marks. And you just had to post that didn't you lee :p But I guess that settles the argument of post 64 weak strikes on ikes
     
  20. BrianS

    BrianS Active Member

    Thanks Rick for the lesson, now I'll get a few out and take a close look.

    My apologies @Cascade if I caused your thread to deviate.
     
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