Busts on both sides of coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Joseph Sarkissian, Apr 23, 2016.

  1. Joseph Sarkissian

    Joseph Sarkissian Active Member

    I have been fixated on this silver coin for weeks trying to determine which ruler(s) this represents. One is a radiate and the other seems to be laureate. I can't find anything similar in my searches. Radiate could be Gordian III (Apparently he minted a vast amount) or Valerian?
    Does anyone know of a good glossary of symbols used on reverses of ancient coins? Image-1 (1).jpg
     
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  3. Kiaora

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  4. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    It looks very round. .....:bookworm:
     
  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My first guess would be a Provincial drachm of either Tiberius or Caligula and Divus Augustus (radiate) from an eastern city (perhaps Caesarea). Researching coins with so much missing detail might require knowing the series from previous exposure which I do not have but that is where I would start looking. I am way out of my area even guessing that much.

    What symbols are you seeing that you want to know? If you are talking about personifications, I have a page
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/pers.html
    but they are not what I would call symbols. Give examples of what you seek.
     
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  6. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    Your coin may be an attempted copy of a Caligula denarius.

    4c - Caligula AR denarius - dual BB.jpg

    Image-1 (1).jpg

    Whether it's an ancient counterfeit (maybe a fourree?) or a modern counterfeit is beyond my expertise. I tend to doubt it's an official minting, but I'm not even sure of that.
     
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  8. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Well, my first guess would have been incorrect, but it seems everyone else has nailed it.
     
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  9. Joseph Sarkissian

    Joseph Sarkissian Active Member

    @dougsmit and @Bing that is clue enough, thanks, I went on wildwinds and researched, I found almost the exact match, and it is Tiberius and Divus. (see below) RPC5094. Even the LZ matches, as well as the faint larger Greek font to the right of Divus (theos sevastos = God respectable), matches. Now my question is, would one counterfeit coins in silver? Also, Doug, the link you provided (your page) is spot on, excellent, I had come across the forum now and then but it is a rich resource and I will use it. They are I guess not symbols, rather the deities and personalities on the reverse of these coins. My coin terminology has to improve. Thanks again.
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    :pigeon:

    ... I'm pretty sure silver coins are on the counterfeiter's list

    *edit*

    Oh, I guess you're asking if they'd use bronze and then coat it with silver (either way, I still think the answer is yes)

    I'm fairly lousy at spotting fakes, so I can't reassure you that your coin is a winner ... but I obviously wish you luck and hope that your OP-coin runs the gauntlet and is found to be a total winner!!

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  11. Joseph Sarkissian

    Joseph Sarkissian Active Member

    Correction: RPC 5089
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Are there fake silver coins? Thousands. Is this coin fake? I do not think so but I will not say any coin is definitely genuine based only on a photo.
     
  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  14. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    correction..... the punched hole in the card gives the impression its a coin on a white piece of paper and therefore very round (when seen on my iphone), now I have had another look, I dont believe its fake.
     
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