I'm such a sucker for a pretty face

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Paul M., Apr 22, 2016.

  1. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I spotted this lovely coin a couple of days ago and fell in love. :) It's my first tetradrachm, and, yes, I bought the coin before the book, but I couldn't resist. I know it's a pretty common coin, since there are 18 examples on Wildwinds and currently 3 on Vcoins, but the style of this one seemed exceptional. Seller's pics and attribution from Wildwinds follow:
    Thasos-tet-47-800_zpsinsaicba.jpg

    Thasos, Thrace
    , AR Tetradrachm. After 148 BC.
    Obverse: Head of young Dionysus right, wreathed with ivy
    Reverse: HΡAKΛEOYΣ ΣΩTH ΡOΣ ΘAΣIΩN to left, right and beneath Herakles standing facing, naked, head left, holding club and lion skin. MH monogram to left.
    Ref: BMC 74; Sear 1759.

    Seller's comments:
    An earliest issue, huge flan & good very fine

    This is currently my oldest coin, and my first Greek coin. And, here I thought my first tet would be an owl! Does anybody know why/how the seller has identified it as an earliest issue? Feel free to post anything related. :)
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2016
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  3. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Forget the book, here's a website:

    http://thracecoins.reidgold.com/

    This was my first tet:
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    Thasos, Thrace, BC 168-148
    AR, tetradrachm, 16.12g, 31mm; 11h
    Obv.: Portrait of Dionysos
    Rev.: ΣΩΤΗΡΟΣ to left, ΗΡΑΚΛΕΟΥΣ to right, ΘΑΣΙΩΝ below; Hercules with lion pelt in arm resting on club. M monogram left
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Beautiful OP coin for sure. I would like to get one some day. JWT- Yours is a fine example as well.
     
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  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Definitely a nice portrait you got there. And that 35mm flan is sure going to feel nice in hand!
     
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  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Beautiful Tets !! it's impossible to resist the appeal of these types and I'm always interested in adding them to my collection.

    This example is not quite as 'huge', nor as beautiful and was struck circa 240 BC.
    Thrace, Byzantion----Demeter and Poseidon, 26 mm:
    1000-33-027 Thrace, Byzantion.jpg
     
  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice example, better then mine.

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    Thasos, Thrace, (146 - 50 B.C.)
    AR Tetradrachm
    O: Young head of Dionysos wearing wreath of leaves and grapes and band across forehead.
    R: ΗΡΑΚΛΕΟΥΣ ΣΩΤΗΡΟΣ ΘΑΣΙΩΝ, Hercules naked standing left holding club, lion skin draped over arm; monogram.
    33mm
    16.1g
    SNG Copenhagen 1040; SG-1759; SNG Ashmolean 3689; Le Rider, Thasos
     
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  8. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Love the Thasos and Thasos(ish) tets!

    Thasos1celt.jpg Thasos1Lipsblack.jpg
     
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  9. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I think the Celtic ones are pretty interesting.

    Ancients are awesome.
     
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  10. 4to2centBC

    4to2centBC Well-Known Member

    Big Silver can be addicting. Hope you have stamina. :cool:

    Mine (stolen and still missing...but mine none the less) Imitative style.

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    My favorite celtic.......also stolen and still in the wind, but still my fave.

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  11. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Nice tetradrachm Paul M (& everyone). :)

    Here is mine:
    Thasos Tet Collage.jpg
    THRACE, Thasos
    AR Tetradrachm
    (After 146 BC)

    16.72 grams, 31 mm
    Obv: Wreathed head of Dionysos right.
    Hair is neatly braided, vine-ed &
    berried with a few locks of loose
    hair cascading down to the shoulder
    Rev: Hercules standing left, holding club
    & lion's skin with control monogram.
    HPAKΛEOYΣ ΣΩTHPOΣ / ΘAΣIΩN.
    Grade: gVF to aEF
    Other: SNG Cop 1046ff.
    May 2014 Pecunem Sale 16, lot # 86.

    Of course, the pretty face is that of Dionysos. Here is a statue of Dionysos at the Louvre:
    Dionysos_Torso_Louvre.jpg
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2016
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Between time and places, official and not, there are so many variations of these I can not claim to sort them out. It is a subject that could use a thorough study buy I'm not certain that there is enough interest in them to justify a book like we have for Alexander coins. I have two and probably should add a really barbarous one but have no feeling for how to tell fakes in that area and little inclination to study them seriously. We need someone who does.
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  13. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    THRACE. Thasos. Tetradrachm (Circa 148-90/80 BC).
    33mm, 16.6 grams
    Head of Dionysos right, wearing ivy wreath.
    Herakles standing left, holding club and lion skin. Control: Monogram to inner left.
    KΛEOYΣ ΣΩTHPOΣ / ΘAΣIΩN.
    SNG Copenhagen 1039; HGC 6, 359.
    Thrace, Thasos.jpg
     
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  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    @JBGood You should change your name to JBGreat!
     
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  15. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    Ha! :woot:
     
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  16. hoth2

    hoth2 Well-Known Member

    I love the weirdness of the weirder Celtic variations of these. The second coin in JWT's link is wonderful. It kind of makes you think some of those 20th century painters weren't as innovative as they thought.
     
  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow Paul-M => that's a total OP-winner (congrats)

    Ummm, I don't have the exact same reverse, but I have the double Dionysos version => obverse & reverse has this wine-drinkin' dude!!

    Dionysian of Maroneia, AR Tetradrachm
    Dionysos & Dionysos

    coin1a.jpg coin1c.jpg coin1b.jpg

    ... yah, it's a wee bit over-cleaned, but still a cool enough example, eh?

    => a very pretty face for a "dude" ... funny how Dionysos was often portrayed as a wee bit female (interesting)

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    But whether he was portrayed as feminine or masculine => he was always packin' the wine!! (yup, good ol' Baachus)

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    http://www.greek-gods.info/greek-gods/dionysus/dionysus-pictures.php#dionysus-paintings


    Here is baby Dionysos ... awww, how cute ...

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    Last edited: Apr 23, 2016
  18. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Nice tetradrachms! I will have to admire, the ones you guys/gals are posting, I have my hands full with worldwide gold/ Imperial AR coinages. Just picked up a new addition today in Swiss auction.
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Great coins, gang ...

    => big silver Tets are so awesome to hold in-hand (man, I've got to get one of those Thasos Dionysos examples to compliment my sweet Maroneia)
     
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  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    42BC => man, I love that Celtic example (very, very cool) ... so sad that it was stolen
     
  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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    Thasos, Thrace, (146 - 50 B.C.)
    AR Tetradrachm, 33mm, 16.1g
    Obv: Young head of Dionysos wearing wreath of leaves and grapes and band across forehead.
    Rev: ΗΡΑΚΛΕΟΥΣ ΣΩΤΗΡΟΣ ΘΑΣΙΩΝ, Hercules naked standing left holding club, lion skin draped over arm; monogram.
    Ref: SNG Copenhagen 1040; SG-1759; SNG Ashmolean 3689; Le Rider, Thasos 51Thasos
     
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