Is this an error? 1914-D $2 1/2 retained cud/die crack?

Here's a question I have ? If this was a cud, wouldn't the letters I & B of LIBERTY be filled from where the cud at, these letters are inverted ?

You can see, it filled around the letters and should of filled the letters at the top, why, because it's inverted ..

 

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They're inverted on the coin, meaning they're a positive on the die. If this is a cud, the metal could have - likely did - break off at their bases.

 

Correct, the lettering is raised on the die, which stamps inverted .Now, take away that piece of the die and there's only one pace for the gold to flow from the missing die and that's in the lettering ..

 

But the letters aren't taken away. You can see where metal flowed around them. So if die metal is gone - I haven't ruled out folded-over rim finning or a collar cud in my own head yet - it obviously broke away at the bases of the letters.

 

How could it flow around inverted lettering ( coin ) ?

 

I can still see the outside of the rim too ..

 

Good point; that eliminates folded rim finning. A collar cud is unlikely because of the point you make with the pic, so we're left with broken die metal at the edges of the letters as the most likely explanation.

 

This is a good coin to bring to a local show where Coneca would be setup at .. They'll know what going on, that's for sure .

 

You could also post it on Coneca forums too ...
http://board.conecaonline.org/forum.php

 

Www.cuds-on-coin.Com is bj's site. Shoot him a link and see what he says

 

That's a good idea. Always better to engage more brains than fewer.

 

I'll take it over to Coneca Forums and see what they say .
Mr. Potter was on there last night too ..

 

OK, I posted it over on Coneca Forums and I'll keep everyone posted on the answer ..
http://board.conecaonline.org/showthread.php?4773-1914-D-2-1-2-Indian&p=17115#post17115

 

OMG! Guys, for those of you who don't already know - this is NOT A LAMINATION!

Sorry to take up space for what most of you already know... Rick, you spoiled my intentions as I was going to post "JEWELRY DAMAGE" just to stir things up and get an educational discussion going about what causes the "ring."

Anyway, laminations are not raised lumps on coins. As you all know, when there is any "depression" into a die (to save typing: no matter what caused it) it produces a raised mark, line, chip, etc. on the coin.

It is not PMD either as it is rounded with an "original" surface.

 

[QUOTE="Treashunt, ...itty bitty cud

[QUOTE="cpm9ball, ...along an itty-bitty rim!

On an itty-bitty coin.

Dos this thread now become an "add one...?"

 

Here's what Mike Diamond said, but he needs better images .

I'd need a close-up of the affected area to be sure, but at this moment it looks like a cud.

Mike Diamond. Error coin writer and researcher.

 

Not sure how much more closeup I could get,. This coin is the size of a dime after all.

 

I understand that ..
Just try I guess, or say it's a Cud ...

 

WAS THERE ANY QUESTION!?

 

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