Hi guys. New to the forum although I have used it for reference on some coins in my collection. I have a question regarding a 1989 Memorial Cent I came by when I was roll hunting. My pictures are sadly taken from my phone, so not the best quality. The issue is that instead of the typical double outline of Lincolns ear, the outline was struck several times going down under the ear and through the jaw. It is a crystal clear outline exactly replicating the outer ear. My question is, what type of error shouyi include when sending it for attribution? Is it still considered double die when there are 4 outlines 1mm apart going down his chin?
These photos are really bad (considering I can't see them), we can't help you without (better) photos.
Thanks a lot for looking Treashunt. I look forward to becoming a more active member of the cointalk community. Finally someone looked past the PMD to see the ear as clearly as myself. This is staying in my collection, yet everybody on a different forum acted as if I was asking for $1,000,000! Being a new guy, it's greatly appreciated.
So somebody took the time to make an exact stamp of Lincoln's ear and Mark it in such a way Ken? That's crazy. Ohwell still pretty crazy looking. I actually found it in a roll with a '91 DDO/DDR, a 95 D DDO, and a few that looked kind of charred..figured maybe a house fire and a guy was purposely holding onto them at some point for that reason. Ohwell.
I think you misunderstood Treashunt . He was just stating that the proper term was doubled , with a d at the end of the word, instead of double as you spelled it. I'm sure your coin has your blood pumping as some did for me when I first started , but what you are seeing is just some well placed damage .
No, he's saying that the coin simply displays damage that, perhaps very remotely, may vaguely resemble a secondary ear. The coin was not intentionally altered with some sort of specially made "stamp". The other gentleman was simply saying that the proper term, had the coin been a genuine variety, is doubled (with an additional D at the end) as opposed to "double die", "double ear", etc, etc. With that said, collect what you like and enjoy. Welcome to the forum, sir.
No, like I said I wasn't trying to sell it so value wasn't a huge deal. Kinda sucks but I kept it because it looked cool and different. I was bored yesterday and going through random coins I held onto and this was one. I did misunderstand what he meant though so thanks for clearing it up. You guys are a real handful of sarcasm lol
I've noticed with the forums, that 'The Book' prevents a lot of people from thinking outside of the box. How exactly was a 1964 SMS set discovered in 1993? Where do these "new" variety's pop up? It's still believed there's undiscovered variety's of the 1982 dates out there. I mean, I just don't understand how Wexler or anybody else keeps finding these if they don't exist because they're "not in the book"?
Do you guys ever think to remember there are still BILLIONS of uncirculated coins hoarded by collectors that never left their rolls yet? Or that millions of Americans spend their cents, Nickels, dimes, and quarters without even looking at them to spot potential errors? Before I was collecting, I can't possibly count how many times I let a loose piece of change roll away when I dropped it getting change at the store, or swept them into the shop vac at the car wash. There's more out there than your Almighty Book. LMAO I can't say I'm surprised that so many guys having not much better going on than hoping to come across the world's most popular doubled die remain so pessimistic to a different option. The ones worth anything are often times the ones nobody else has. Ya know..that whole DEMAND thing. Everybody has a 1995 doubled die, but the 1995 D is more RARE, making it worth more obviously. When all you search for is from the precious book, what do you really have as a collector? The same thing as everybody else. I wonder what the guy who hated on the 1st guy to find the '55 DDO had to say?? Probably about the same as a lot of you. So laugh it up chuckles. Sorry for looking at things differently.
The last major variety in pre 1990 coins was the 1982 DDR found several years back. Most of the new varieties are from 2009 + cents. Here is the truth I finally came to: You don't get to pick what you find. You learn what is out there so you can recognize it when you do find it. I used to study every penny very closely. I thought like you do. I decided I was going to find an elusive 1973 variety. I never did but I gradually learned on here, and other places the difference between PMD, MD, and true doubled die's. Most of the doubled die variety coins have already been found. There are between 10 to 15 million people looking through Lincoln cents in America. I live on the West coast. We mainly have Denver mint coins, or old San Francisco mint coins in circulation. There aren't nearly as many errors from Denver as Philadelphia. This may sound blasphemous to you but I don't even look at any post 2004 Denver cents. I throw those out right away. I was lucky enough to find a 2011P doubled die in a roll so I still check the obverse, and reverse of Philly shield cents. You will find what the lord of the coins gives you (unless you don't recognize it as it goes by). Also: seek and ye shall find. Those are the best words of wisdom I have for new members.
I appreciate that Tom. Thank you. I kept the '89 because it looked different and didn't care about the overall value. I looked closer and saw the exact outline of Lincoln's ear and thought maybe it had a name. I can typically tell PMD right away and it just seemed too convenient that something came along and marked it exactly as an ear multiple times. Anyway, I'll keep hoping for more good finds, worthless or not. Lucky for me I'm in PA so hopefully that works in my favor.
Welcome aboard, better get used to it it's only the tip of the iceberg. Believe me I'm a member who knows, and at times that's all you can do LOL. \V/