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  1. brandon spiegel

    brandon spiegel Brandon Spiegel

    This idea that will follow is just something that I am curious about.

    Is it possible that there could be two coins, that could have a combined variety?

    EX: a matron head large cent has a leaf on the reverse that is of a similar relief to a leaf on a Morgan dollar that is also on the reverse, in a similar lcoation , that has very similar characteristics to make some sort of Newcome vam variety?

    As many of you may be able to tell, I am very unfailar with varieties, but I am just kind - of curious.
     
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  3. spirityoda

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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Hey.. you can quickly hit the Thread Tools tab under your title to the right and edit your title.
    The correct word is Guess.. not Gess :bookworm:
     
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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    What is a combined variety?
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    good question
     
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    Careful, Paddy! He can also hit the "Ignore" button when he clicks on your username.

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  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    There's no such thing as a "combined variety." Newcomb is for 1816-57 large cents, period. VAM is for Morgan and Peace dollars, period. Both terms refer to the catalog of die marriages for their respective types. I hear and read variations of "this coin has a VAM on it" frequently. That can only make sense if there is a Morgan or Peace dollar physically sitting on the coin in question. A feature like a doubled die or repunched mintmark can be a characteristic of a VAM, but it is not a VAM by itself.
     
  9. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    You never hear anyone say, "This Cent has an Overton." Curious, that. :)
     
  10. UnCommonCents

    UnCommonCents Variety Collector

  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    "Gess" you missed out on the early days of Josh's coins then.... ;)
     
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  12. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    The idea behind varieties, for both large cents and Morgan dollars, although they exist for all coins, is that a variety simply IDs a specific pairing of obverse and reverse dies. So in that sense the answer to your question is no, there are in general no combined varieties across different denominations. I say in general because there are cases where the wrong planchet was used in a set of dies, i.e. a dime planchet struck with cent dies, but most would consider that a straight error, not a new variety.

    A broader interpretation of your question is, are there common design elements across denominations. For instance, the letter and number punches were often used on multiple denominations of coins. So a $10 gold and a large cent could both have the same exact punch used for the letter T, or some other design element. This does not however make them combined varieties.
     
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  13. brandon spiegel

    brandon spiegel Brandon Spiegel

    Thank you all for the information, sorry about the bad grammar and spelling
     
  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Just a good fun shot to the shoulder, Brandon.... ;)
     
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