Floating Die Clash

would you consider this a floating die clash?

 

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@Paddy54

It's hard for me to tell if those marks are raised or recessed. The "arcs" looked recessed and the "bulges" next to them looked raised as though they were metal pushed out of a gouge. If this is what they are, then I would have to think it is the result of PMD.

Chris

 

Calling @mikediamond

 

Not PMD as it came out of a mint set,also there is lettering hard to make out in photo due to tone of surface . Looks to be the lettering of US OF A from the reverse . The other look to be the bottoms of the digits from the date. They are raised .

 

You keep your mint sets in the compost bin?

 

You are a better judge of it since you have the coin in hand, but you know as well as I that Mint cello provides little protection against PMD.

Chris

 

My first thought while viewing the pictures was PMD from a reeded half or quarter. But you can see it better then us.

 

No damage was done to the mint package was in the original envelope coins toned some. From an estate sale,the family had no interest in the passed member hobby .

 

@Jim M .

 

Yeah - If the coin was PMD wouldn't the cello packaging have at least some marks on it too?

 

A floating clash says that the first coin will have raised lettering (in the field).
I can slighly make out some letters. the thing that gets me is the distance from th e rim. But I guess A fragment of the die could move in the chamber.
Still puzzled though. Cool coin I dont think its Pmd.

 

I'm thinking and filling in the puzzle as I go .
The one behind the head could be the word " GOD " ...

 

But it looks incused to me in the pics . Paddy couldn't it be PMD that happened at the mint before packaging ? Just a thought .

 

@Paddy54 - On top of what @rzage said. Not that it happened to your coin, but here's a sample of PMD "at the mint" during the packaging process. I guess it does happen.

The cellophane wrap perforating machine hit the Treasury coin. I guess I was lucky it didn't hit an actual coin. If it did, even though it happened "it" the mint...I guess it would have been classified as PMD.

 

Only proof coins get special handling after being struck. Coins that go into mint sets are just as vulnerable to bag marks as any other buisness strike befor being placed in the set. A better term for this would be Post Strike Damage. PSD

 

Well, maybe for some proof set but not all. Those white speckles you see are on the inside of the slab.

 

Must have been an extra special day at the mint !

 

Must of been as the damage you speak of is in the form of lettering .

 

Well, if we theorize that it's a floating clash, what was "floating" was part of the collar, the only thing capable of clashing those regular arcs into a die. I'm quite prepared to believe that as a possibility.

 

Not to mention the fact that coins destined for mints sets were shipped in bags.