Is this an error? 1914-D $2 1/2 retained cud/die crack?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by jwitten, Apr 9, 2016.

  1. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Is this a retained cud, die crack, or something else? And before someone says jewelry piece... the 1914-D $2 1/2 is made with the flattened circle around the rim. It has possibly been cleaned, but the line is not from jewelry. Thanks!
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    itty bitty cud
     
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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    .......along an itty-bitty rim!

    Chris:):)
     
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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Neat! It looks like all of the I stayed part of the die.
     
  6. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I didn't even notice it without magnification. Cool nonetheless.
     
  7. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    If I may suggest send it in the cuds on coins see what Mr. Neff has to say and I don't mean you have to send the coin in just the photos. :blackalien: \V/
     
  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    lamination error ....
     
  9. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    is that a website?
     
  10. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    Yes sir cuds on coins.com since my dyslexia keeps me from learning how to copy and post links even though I've done it 100 times but I just can't retain it, I'm sure one of our other members will give you the link. :blackalien: \V/
     
  11. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    Sir I need to make a correction it is cuds on coins@aol.com, this is the email address you'll be sending the photos in on
     
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  12. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    It's not a cud or crack, it's a " Lamination " Error .

    It's gold everyone .......
     
  13. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Are you saying gold cannot have a retained cud? Because I have seen some graded as such...
     
  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Not at all, but the die is in a very early die state to me, for these kinds of issues ...
     
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  15. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    How would you know it is in a late die state? I have seen a MS graded Indian with a retained cud.
     
  16. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Everything start to wear, lettering, stars, date, details on the Indian and his head dress .. everything around the horn is inverted for striking too .

    To me, this coin looks in ms-62 or 63 shape too . I'm just not seeing the wear on the die for a crack or cud ...
    Which is good for you, if you own the coin ?
     
  17. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Yes, it's mine. Trying to decide if it is worth sending in. I think it might be cleaned.
     
  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Take a image of the rim, over the area of question .
    Then you'll know for sure what's going on ..
     
  19. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    Like I said Mr. Neff on cuds on coins is always looking for new cud , just email him the photos and it usually takes him a couple weeks he will get back with you on your submission. And if you want to get it slab that's another story I myself unfortunately having one slab at this time. I myself am not a big slab fan, whichever way you decide to go good luck. :blackalien: \V/
     
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  20. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Does this coin match your description or go against it? Seems well struck, etc to me..
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  21. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Where is the cud on this coin, I think it's on the reverse, only because the reverse is on the graded side of the slab .

    Anything under 65 is a MS-coin and anything 65 or above is a BU-coin . The original coin you posted is a early die state then this one .
     
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