How to dip copper coins?

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  1. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    so it passes muster with PCGS and NGC. Any ideas
     
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  3. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    This is going to be fun :)
     
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  4. Santinidollar

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  5. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Don't they have some gadget that sniffs out residue on coins?
     
  6. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Stirring the pot I see. LOL
     
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  7. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    LOL, don't you know it!

    Steve
     
  8. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Only one way - don't. Maybe you can get Doug or somebody else that insists it's done all the time to share their secret.
     
  9. ThinnPikkins

    ThinnPikkins Well-Known Member

    Every dealer in my area also says it happens on a regular
     
  10. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Lots of people say that it happens all of the time, yet nobody ever demonstrates it. Put up or shut up.
     
  11. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Reminds you of something, don't it...

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  12. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    You want to see what dip does to copper? OK.

    Before. These were heavily overlit to expose any detail at all; the coin was almost black:

    1837Obvb.jpg

    1837Revb.jpg

    After. Mind, this set is scans, which do not show color with any effectiveness. You have no_idea how bright and putrid a color this coin became:

    1837obv 001a.jpg

    1837rev 001a.jpg

    That was ten years ago, when I was first learning what you could and couldn't do to copper. The coin still hasn't recovered yet, although I probably could (now) if I set my mind to it.

    If your definition of "dip" includes thiourea, just don't.
     
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  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Unless you like pink copper !
     
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  14. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    I just go for broke. Like this:

    (This method should only be done in the presence of a trained numismatist
    or livestock veterinarian)
    1) Mix one part Koinsolv with three parts E-Z Est (the mixture will produce lots of smoke, so just remember to wear a hospital-grade respirator).
    2) Dip for 2 minutes, stirring anti-clockwise (in the northern hemisphere).
    3) Immediately bathe coin in MS70 for a few minutes.
    4) Take it out of the bath and set coin on paper towel for 1 hour (you cannot skip this step!)
    5) Do a final rinse in room-temp Faygo-brand soda. Any flavor will do, but don't go cheap and try it with some of that Coke or Pepsi crap from your fridge.
    6) In a beaker, steep the coin in 160-degree distilled water, stir the water with a BPA-free plastic spoon, and chant the Frisian-language invocation, "Myn munt sil wêze rein". ...Yes, Frisian. Over and over. For 10 minutes.
    7) Remove from water. Blow dry.

    Before and After pic:
    images-1.jpeg

    ... there's a final step, but I forgot what it was. hmm.

    ??
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2016
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  15. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Depends on what you mean by dip. Anything that you apply to the surface of a coin which alters the metal is not going to pass the TPGs. But there are chemicals like xylol and water which can be used to clean organic material off of coins and which will not necessary keep the coin from grading cleanly.
     
  16. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    @mlov43, I can't tell whether you're yanking my chain or not. I know some (or a lot) is BS, but...

    Steve
     
  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    All we need are more people messing with coins.
     
  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    The final step is owning up to the fact that the before/after are in correct order, left to right. :)
     
  19. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Yeh, saw that, but thought it would take more than his process to produce that (like ground burial).

    Steve
     
  20. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    Well, if the requirements for the presence of a trained numismatist OR livestock veterinarian and the importance of chanting in Frisian aren't enough to trigger your BS-detector, ...then get that thing fixed, man!


    Oh! And I remember the final step now:

    8) Throw the coin in the trash.
     
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  21. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    I've got a nasty gash in my cheek where the hook embedded itself.

    Steve
     
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