Crazy Horse Tetradrachm - Punic Sicily

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  1. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    There really is not much I can add to this board about this particular coin type and those of other places in Sicily. @Collect89 informed me there was no more room for threads on coins of Entella, and that Coin Talk was no longer accepting threads on the coins of Entella. Yet here we are.

    Scratched one off the bucket list.

    Dominion of Carthage
    Sicily, Entella (s BC 300-289)
    AR Tetradrachm 26 mm x 15.93 grams
    Obverse: Bust of Melqart (Herakles) right wearing Lion skin head dress.
    Reverse: Horse's head to left, palm tree behind. MHMHNT ('ommachanat' ) in Phoenician in ex.
    Ref Jenkins 321. SNG Lloyd 1644. Carthage Series 5, minted in Sicily (Jenkins SNR 57 273-421)
    Note: Dark Toning. Small amount of horn silver on obverse, nice Sicilian Flan.


    The only time in my life where I wouldn't mind ending up with a Sicilian Horses' Head in my bed. :eek:

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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    WOW, very nice Nathan! Well done on this capture!
     
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  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Nice coin. The image seems to have a blocky look with few shades of gray making the coin look a little odd. If the coin looks like tis in hand, I would have to suspect there was once a lot more horn silver that was cleaned a bit roughly. I suggest rephotographing this one.
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    What a wonderful type!!! Congratulations :)
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Holy Smokes, Noob => that's a total fricken winner!! (congrats)

    Ummm, I do have an AE-example as well, eh?


    Carthage Horse-head AE20

    carthage.jpg


    ... man, I'm totally jealous of your AR winner!!


    :rolleyes:
     
  7. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    i have to agree with you. My llight that I had been using to get my best images crapped out, I replaced with two other lights but none of the images I have taken are great. and really not happy with any of them. There are some other seller l auction images that are both good and bad in there own ways.
     
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  8. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Neat coins, Noob and Steve-o!

    I've always been a fan of the Punic wars, going back to college when I took a Roman History class (a class I actually showed up to, for a change). I was going to collect Punic coins when I first got into ancients, but got lured away to Roman Republicans (really the other side of the Punic war, right?!). Thus my name Carthago which goes way back in internet days.

    I still have one which I'm keeping for good:

    SICILY, Entella. Punic issues. Circa 320/15-300 BC. AR Tetradrachm (17.21 g, 12h). Head of Persephone left, wearing barley-ear wreath, triple-pendant earring, and necklace; four dolphins around / Horse’s head left; palm tree to right, Punic ‘MMHNT below. Jenkins, Punic 156 (O48/R141); Boston MFA 491 (same dies); SNG Copenhagen 84 (same obv. die); SNG Lockett 1050 (same obv. die).

    Sicily Entella Punic Issue Tetradrachm CNG 1-2007.jpg
     
  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Noob, I get the feeling of deja-vu when I view your wonderful post LOL.... It looks as great now as when I first saw it even with a less than perfect photo (which I seem to specialize in:D)

    Fantastic posts guys:woot::woot::woot:...and just the coin I'm desperately hungering after. Now I'm super jealous;)
     
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  10. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    My more common bronze examples:

    carthage.jpg Carthage 2.jpg
    GORGEOUS COIN @cathago
     
  11. Ancientnoob

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  12. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    I love Punic coins, this could be my favorite ancient series. I need to free this one from its plastic prison and get a better picture:

    punic tet 4.jpg

    Really bold horse with a somewhat weak obverse strike (now traded away at the last FUN show):

    punic tet 2.jpg

    Another with different style:

    punic tet 1.jpg

    Sorry if I piled on too much. :)

    John
     
  13. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Wow - you guys got some serious coins...good golly Miss Molly!
     
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  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    John, pile away!!!
     
  15. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    OK, if you are going to like my Punic horses post I have to drop my last ones:

    punic gold 1.jpg

    And my all time favorite (so far). Still working on getting the best picture of this. It is pretty shiny, which makes it difficult.

    punic tet 3a.jpg

    John
     
  16. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    wow...I have nothing that nice wow!
     
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  18. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    It took me from 1985 when I discovered this type until 2015 to get what is the ultimate example for me (I am sure there are better ones still). I got lucky in an auction where there was only one bidder besides me and my stomach muscles were stronger that day. :)

    Your new horse rocks and I would have bid on it if I still needed one.

    John
     
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  19. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Beautiful examples, John! :wideyed:
     
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  20. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    that means a lot coming from someone who just showed some killer and well thought out examples. The fault of the coin made it just cheap enough where it was within striking distance.
     
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  21. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    The fun is in the hunt! I think I upgraded my Herakles/Horse coin 3 times before getting the one I have now. When the chance comes, take it!

    :)
     
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