Vespasian from Agora auctions

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Orfew, Apr 5, 2016.

  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Just won this today. It is not in very good shape but I liked it because I have the same reverse on a coin of Titus. Please post your coins of Vespasian.

    Vespasian A.D. 69-79. AR denarius (19.3 mm, 2.82 g, 6 h).

    Rome mint, struck A.D. 77-78.

    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, laureate head right

    Rev: COS VIII, prow of galley right, star above.

    RIC 108; BMCRE 210; RSC 136.

    Agora Auctions Lot 53-176 April 5, 2016

    Ex: Agora Auctions

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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Cool prow, Orfew => congrats
    Sadly, I still only have one example of this dude ...

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  4. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice! A cool type.
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That is a most interesting Vespasian. That must have been one bright star!
     
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  6. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    very nice galley,
     
  7. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    A neat reverse which copies denarius types struck for Ahenobarbus and Mark Antony. Many of the denarii minted for Vespasian had an antiquarian air about them and were either copied types from the past or invented ones which looked 'republican'. Denarii of his reign were struck at 80% fineness, so presumably the mint was recalling the finer republican and early imperial types in circulation and were striking the antiquarian types at the new standard.

    Here's my example, one of the first Roman coins I purchased.

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    I'm glad to see you got one, it's not as common as you would think!
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I love that OP denarius and I almost went after it as well...but I already had quite a few 'cooking' LOL Congrats @Orfew !!!

    Wonderful posts @vepasian70 and @stevex6 !! I'm drooling over them!!

    I won this denarius at another auction (relatively common but interesting) which I might as well post here:

    AR Denarius of Vespasian, Rome Mint 74 AD
    RIC II, 3.28 grams, 19.5 mm
    IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG
    Laureate head right
    PON MAX TRP COS V
    Vespasian seated right on curule chair, feet on foot stool, long scepter near vertical behind in right hand, olive branch in left hand.

    Vespasian bust curule chair reverse.jpg
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Nice pick-up Orfew, and thanks for the explanation of the reverse type @vespasian70 . It's hard to tell because of the difference in wear, but I believe your two coins share the same reverse die.

    I have only one Vespasian denarius in my possession at the moment, which has the sort of chicken-scratch lettering you occasionally find. It seems so odd compared to the "high art" style of the devices, particularly the bust.

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  11. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Nice coin. I lost out on an auction for the left facing bust version of this coin just 2 days ago. I really liked the reverse.
     
  12. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I'm sorry to hear that one slipped by!
     
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  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Nice example! Yet another reverse which copies a type from the past, this time Tiberius' 'Tribute Penny'.
     
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  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Sorry to hear that! I think that's the scarcer version as well.
     
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  15. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Yes, it's a 'R2' (very few examples) coin in RIC, but it's probably one of the more common R2 coins out there, if that makes any sense! Left facing busts were generally struck at a ratio of 1:10 compared with right facing.
     
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  16. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Great Vespasian denarius Orfew! I love the reverse. Ramming speed indeed.

    Here is one of my favorite Vespasian coins. Not silver, and possibly tooled a bit, but she'll do.

    Vespasian: AD 69-79
    AE As; 28mm/10.1g
    OBV; IMP CAESAR VESP AVG COS V CENS, laureate head right/
    REV; S-C, Spes advancing left, holding flower & raising hem of robe. Rome mint.
    (Cohen 452, RIC I 360a)

    Vespasian OBV 3.JPG Vespasian REV 3.JPG
     
  17. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    No Vespasian's, but here's the Antony/Ahenobarbus Vespasian70 mentioned as the inspiration for the reverse.

    Marc Antony & Domitius Ahenobarbus Denarius CNG 5-2012.jpg
     
  18. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Utterly fantastic! It's quite remarkable how close the Antony coin is to the Vespasian copy. I love seeing these older types side by side with the Flavian versions.
     
  19. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great coin Carthago. There were certainly a lot of interesting coins of M. Antony.

    Here is the Titus version.



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  20. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    A very scarce type for Titus Caesar which I believe is rarer than the the RIC 'rare' rating indicates. Harry Sneh sold me an example eight years ago. I still cherish it.
     
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  21. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Judaea Capta series sestertius, ric 221:

    vespasian_1.jpg


    Just picked up a new Vespasian dupondius at the Baltimore show, but don't have a picture yet.
     
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