Buoyed by the success of my last 'enquiry', I am hoping that those who are 'in the know' on the subject of (silver) English pennies may be able to help me to identify the following 'cut' pennies that I have been unable to identify on my own. Any thoughts are welcome because I am in need of direction on these. Thank you. Coin #1, 18mm, 0.4gm Coin #2, 17.5mm, 0.3gm Coin #3, 18mm, 0.6gm, Coin #4, 16.5mm, 0.3gm,
Woah!!!! Wouldn't you know it? It looks like I have both halves of the same coin. If I position coin #1 next to coin #2, I get the following picture. Can anyone identify that, perhaps?
That is awesome! Did both halves come from the same dealer? As far as an ID, I can't say. It looks to be from the low country, but I have minimal knowledge of those coins. I do know that starting with Edward III (1327-1377) other designs were placed in the quarters, rather than the trefoil of pellets, so I'm willing to bet your coin is 14th/15th century.
They also could be French, but I don't have a reference of those coins either. Sorry I can't be of more help.
This is going to bug me until it is answered, but I think the obverse says BARCINONA. I'm not saying your coin is this one, but I think it's in the right direction. http://artgallery.yale.edu/collections/objects/162745
There's also this http://artgallery.yale.edu/collections/objects/162799 And this http://artgallery.yale.edu/collections/objects/162718 While it may not be those, a good place to start looking is Barcelona in the 13th and 14th century, as they seem to have the circles in the quarters with trefoils in the others.
Not cut, but broken. Cut coins are cut very cleanly and have straight edges. Chances of coming across two halves of a cut coin are...........pretty much zero. I found two cut halves and a cut quarter in a field in the uk last week. MARTINUS DEI GRA REX is what is written on the obverse of the Martin of Spain coin.
Given the other thread you started, please look at this, specifically the "O" in the quarter. It appears to me that Barcelona coins take on this identifier. There is a trefoil in the left quarter, which many a country used, but that "O"... (Keep in mind, I am searching with you.) Given that the "O" seems to be Spain, or Barcelona, let's look at those 2 options to find this legend. It's a Reverse legend, however names sometimes fall on the reverse. Sometimes, you only get fragments to names and titles. Here's what I see. "OMP" or "DMP" or "DIRO" or "DINO" or, well, hopefully you get the picture, in the quarter on the left. I could be wrong. Here's a suggestion, which will probably be wrong. Here's your Martin I coin. http://artgallery.yale.edu/collections/objects/162745 The lettering is more consistent, but I'm not sold on it. However, I believe it's a start.
I believe that the correct rotation of picture two of coin #3 (to display the obverse) is:- which is very close (but not the same as) to the image in this Martin coin.
