Would you gamble on this?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Numismat, Mar 29, 2016.

  1. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    I saw this listing earlier and it got me wondering how people feel about situations like this.

    The facts:

    1. Super blurry pictures, impossible to determine grade, denomination or authenticity.

    2. No information other than "1883 Hawaii coin" in description.

    3. Seller has 0 feedback, is not and has not recently sold anything else.

    4. Price is typical of modern replicas.

    The screenies (Sorry if my black-out theme hurts your eyes):

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    Would you roll the dice?
     
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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Not at all .
     
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  4. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    The question here has nothing to do with the coin and everything to do with the seller. Does this person actually have the coin, and are they actually going to send it to you? If I thought both were true, I would have instantly risked that small sum of money for the potential return of an original Hawaii Quarter or Half. Even one of the later restrikes would be "interesting" for that money.
     
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  5. cpm9ball

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    @Numismat
    I don't know why it should be a problem. We get stuff like this on CT all the time. If you listen to those "experts", you should go ahead and pull the trigger and pray you don't shoot yourself in the foot.

    Chris
     
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  6. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    See this is exactly what has me wondering. This one is cheap enough, but this situation comes up at much riskier prices. Your replies are exactly the kind of insight I am curious about.
    Would you still take the risk if the price was tenfold? What about if you didn't have the eBay buyer protection safety net? I'm always interested in "social experiments" and how people think.
     
  7. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Later re-strikes? First I hear of that. Are you talking about official or unofficial ones? :)
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Not a chance! Leave the social experiments to the men in white coats with lab rats.

    Chris
     
  9. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    Leave it to Beaver. Seriously though i would not touch that coin. There are reasons why sellers take blurry shots.
     
  10. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Completely unofficial, counterfeit dies. An intellectual exercise only.
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I can't count the red flags you stated as facts. Please, pass as the coin is not the question but the Seller.
     
  12. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    The factual part is that they are red flags :)
     
  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I've been an "eBay gambler" for several years, and I've gotten some treasures, and some trash.

    Given the prevalence of cheap knockoff coins on eBay today and the rarity of this actual issue, I wouldn't look twice at this one. Even with Buyer Protection and all that, the chances of getting a legitimate coin aren't high enough to justify the time clicking through "Buy It Now". And is this from someone who is more than usually inclined to say "Buy it now and let Buyer Protection sort it out".
     
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  14. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Does it come with a bottle of Mad Dog and a bridge with Brooklyn provenance?
     
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  15. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    As someone who has driven over the Brooklyn bridge many hundreds of times, I can never understand that joke. That bridge is horrible. Maybe that IS the joke
     
  16. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    I bet there's some truth to the joke. Maybe some thief in Tammany Hall sold the bridge to NJ. :p
     
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  17. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    For $10? Sure! People spend a lot more on lottery tickets, and almost ALWAYS get nothing in return. A lot better odds here.
     
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  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Yeah, but it's a nice walk. :)
     
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  19. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I would buy it for $10 and free shipping in a heartbeat. I formerly bought all kinds of fakes/copies listed on Ebay when they were allowed.
     
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  20. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Not me. I don't especially want to support the fake manufacturers, and I definitely don't want to support the fake manufacturers AND some schmo who's trying to resell their stuff at a further profit.
     
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  21. MisterWD

    MisterWD Active Member

    New Yorkers have a bad attitude because the light at the end of the tunnel is New Jersey. No don't trust this seller but for thirteen bucks, buy it. Better odds than a lotto ticket.
     
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