I require more information concerning this coin/medal.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Joshua062000, Mar 28, 2016.

  1. Joshua062000

    Joshua062000 New Member

    I require more information concerning this coin/medal:
    M.AGRIPPA.L F. COS. III TRPOTCOS II
    Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa 23/10 or 23/11 64/63 BC - 12BC
    Roman Stateman & Naval General [ 45 - 12 BC ]
    9.85 g diameter 32 mm
    Can somebody guide me in finding more information about this coin/medal?
     

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  3. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    To me, it looks like a modern fantasy. How did you come across it?
     
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  4. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Yes, modern fantasy coin, to me too, style, devices and engraving are completely off, of what you would expect from a genuine one

    Sorry about that
    Q
     
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  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I'm not an ancient collector, but ...

    That looks 100% bogus to me.
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I'll echo the others. Fake.
     
  7. Joshua062000

    Joshua062000 New Member

    Thanks for the your honest reply.
    Source: I found this piece of metal(?) at the base of a roman wall (some 52 years ago) in Belgium (Stokkem) while we were playing in that area and kept it as a souvenir!
    (Presently it is boarded off and well preserved for future generations as a Roman site!)
    I started collecting coins some 3 years ago and I would like
    to get more information concerning this coin/medal.
     
  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    It is a well known tourist quality fake I am afraid. These are the sort of thing sold in tourist shops and are fantasy pieces.

    Here are a couple of other examples taken from a fake coin database.

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  9. 4to2centBC

    4to2centBC Well-Known Member

    Well, we can now establish that they have been making this particular style of fake for at least 52 years.
     
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  10. Joshua062000

    Joshua062000 New Member

    Thanks guys, I will preserve your comments and pass this "fake" to my grandchildren for future value evaluation.
     
  11. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Maybe in 2000+ years it will be regarded as a valuable restoration issue, made in the 20th century CE for some obscure and undetermined reason !

    Q
     
  12. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    I hope this won't put you off collecting Roman coins, Joshua062000. Many collectors once harboured high hopes of a treasure they found, only to be let down. You can learn from the experience...
     
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There was a time not all that long ago when it was considered the sign of being well educated to have education in Classics including Latin language in High School. A few still do but I suspect there are at least three times as many classes now taking Spanish and at least equal numbers taking other modern languages like German or Japanese. In the day, we studied Roman history and knew who people like Agrippa were so souvenirs like this had more appeal while today we see more Star Wars and Pro sports demand.
    Being found near a Roman site does not make something Roman but suggests that someone who cared lost a bauble when on holiday.

    In the late 1800's it was popular to visit Egypt and buy what is termed 'Grand Tour Pieces' or tourist fakes that are now found in antique shops with prices matching their age. Will poorly made souvenir coins be worth having in 2116. I rather prefer to think not but people collect the toys I played with back when so anything is possible.
     
  14. Pisagor

    Pisagor New Member

    I have this original
     
  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Welcome @Pisagor. You have the original of the OP?
     
  16. Pisagor

    Pisagor New Member

    Hayır, buldum
     
  17. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Meaning : No, I found it

    Q
     
  18. Pisagor

    Pisagor New Member

    Is this medallion a value for money?
     
  19. AKR

    AKR New Member

    Hello Joshua just found your information: i have exact the same coin and I found it in the top soil near a village near Nijmegen, an important place of course in Roman times
     
  20. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Fake.
     
  21. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    I was blessed with a Classical education whether I wanted one or not. Latin was mandatory at my high school. At the university I attended, more Latin and yes, even Greek. Philosophy and theology classes were taught in Latin and the textbooks were in Latin (late 1950's to mid 1960's). I would have continued these Classical studies but switched to history as I wanted to teach and already I could see the writing on the wall. There were many more openings in the teaching of history than the classics. Still, I managed to give my history students much more of Classical Greece and Rome than they otherwise ever would have gotten. It also enabled me to enjoy the collecting of ancient coins and artifacts. That education also allowed me the gift of perspective, to see that there was, indeed, nothing new under the sun. By the way, there is nothing wrong with studying modern languages as well. Language is the vehicle of culture. Learn the language, learn the culture.
     
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