What in the world is....

this?



I though it might be something added at first then it looks like it actually goes into the stars.

Canceled die? But wouldn't the X be larger?

I'm stumped

 

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That is odd. Die scratch?

 

What us the coins date and type ?

 

X-marks the spot?

 

1877-P I do believe.

 

St. Andrews Cross..........

 

odd

 

X-Files


What are you looking at?

 

It's a knife cut, like dozens we've all seen. Circulation since the cut has created anything we might see as anomalous here. The cut from the wrist to the star was the first one (as the second cut is clearly on top of it), and I guess the knife blade was pointed northwest for that cut (which would explain how the star could fold easily back down into place) and southwest for the second cut (the edge still remains on the northeast side of that cut).

 

I say it's still the 'Rebs' fixin' to take back Atlanta.........

 

PMD. i have one that is similar

 

That's too cool for school.

It's one of the types which can get breathlessly hyped on Ebay by people who don't understand what circulation wear can do to cuts like those.

 

The cross looks raised????

 

When knife hits metal, something has to be displaced for a cut to appear. The displaced metal is shifted to one side or both - most normally one side because the knife isn't perfectly perpendicular to the coin. Then, circulation folds that displaced metal back down, roughly over where it was displaced from. Underneath what you see is still somewhat hollow.

 

Hmmm, I think we need to do a dye penetrant test to confirm that theory. I just completed a procedure based on ASME standards this morning if anyone want to review. (You should have a pillow handy though).

 

Looks like die damage to me. The raised 'design' metal goes through the star, but not deep enough to reach the incuse depth of the star in the die. The uneveness in the wear of the high points on the line shows different depth in the gouge of the die.

If this were a knife cut to the coin, and there is a hollow/void under the lines, can you push any of the displaced metal back down?

Neat coin!

 

Probably. Like I said, it's not like anyone experienced hasn't seen this precise thing many, many times before.

 

I'm in your camp Mr. Green. One point in the X touches the *Liberty* pole and one point touches a star--"Stars and Bars." It's not hard to imagine a pissed off CSA supporter in 1877-the year Reconstruction ended. It wasn't too hard to imagine them in 1977 for that matter if you happened to have been in Charleston, SC and heard Charlie Daniel's: South's Gonna Do It Again played ten or twenty thousand times.

 

Evan8's 1875 Rev shows a more explicit phenomenon of raised straight lines, not quite parallel, but often at right angles. Since they mostly appear under the images, it would indicate they were gouged out in the die before they it was milled.