What is the black thing on coins?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Herberto, Mar 21, 2016.

  1. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    Not that great intellectual question, but I have speculated for a long time: what exactly is the black materiel on these coins?

    They are certainly not dirt/earth on my Miliareson. They are a sort of black glue.



    I have marked them with red and white marks:

    717–741 Leo III Miliaresion S1512.JPG
    Not mine.jpg
    The latter one is not mine, but another user’s. Source here: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/valentinianus-ii-solidus-387ad-constantinople-mint.276191/




    So what is it? and why does it happen?

    Bad silver/gold at certain places that eventually got a little bit corroded?
     
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  3. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Your guess would be mine as well, but I'm sure there are others who actually know the answer.
     
  4. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Silver corrodes and the common black tarnish on silver is silver sulphide.
    Gold is a noble metal and doesn't corrode. Dirt will gather on gold however
     
  5. Ryan Barnhardt

    Ryan Barnhardt ICG Customer Service

    Looks like corrosion on silver and dirt on gold.
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    oxidation
    mittens.jpg

    ... kinda like Granny's oxidized (tarnished) silverware ...[​IMG]
     
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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    As the owner of the gold above, I got it out and looked under a microscope. Prodding with a pin dislodged a bit of very dark brown and very dry dirt. I suspect I could clean it all off with soap and water but why???
     
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  8. Ryan Barnhardt

    Ryan Barnhardt ICG Customer Service

    IMO, you should never use anything metal to remove debris from a coin. A sharpened round toothpick would have been better. The microscope was a good choice! If you got lucky, there will not be any shiny scratches where the steel pin went through the dirt and scratched the soft gold.

    Since the coin is already cleaned, it might look better with out the dirt.
     
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  9. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I think you may rest assured that Doug has done nothing to damage his coin.
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Shot, i ain.t gonna drink anything out of those goblets
     
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  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Ain.t? forgive me.......forgot to unmentionable myself.......ain't......
     
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