clodius as emperor

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  1. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    clodius as emperor genius denarius
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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    Clodius Albinus (193 - 195 A.D.)
    AR Denarius
    O: D CL SEPT ALBIN CAES, bare head right.
    R: MINER PACIF COS II, Minerva standing front, head left, holding a spear and leaning on a shield.
    Rome Mint
    3.21g
    19mm
    RIC 7, RSC 48, RCV 6144, BMC 98
     
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  4. The Meat man

    The Meat man Well-Known Member

    Nice coin. I like the toning.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    @ro1974

    Your coin 's attribution:
    Clodius Albinus Æ As. Rome, 194 AD. D CL SEPT ALBIN CAES, bare head right / SAECVLO FRVGIFERO COS II S C, radiate figure standing left holding caduceus between wheat ears & trident. BMC 548, Cohen 72.
     
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  6. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    Amazing, yours has a great look!
     
  7. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Perhaps I am seeing different images to everyone else....

    I disagree with a few details in this thread.

    The deity is not genius.

    The coins above are of Clodius Albinus as Casear to Septimius Severus and not as emperor. His coins as emperor have quite a different look and were produced in Lugdunum for a very short period between when he declared himself emperor and being killed.

    Bing for some reason attributes it as an As. but it is a denarius.

    AR Denarius
    Struck 194-195 AD.
    D CL SEPT ALBIN CAES, Bare head right
    SAEC FRVGIF COS II, Saeculum Frugiferum standing left, holding caduceus and fork.
    RIC IV 8; BMCRE p. 37, *; RSC 65.

    Here is an example from my collection of a Coldius Albinus as Augustus coin with a Genius reverse.

    Obv:- IMP CAES D CLO SEP ALBIN AVG, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:- GEN LVG COS II, Genius of Lugdunum, standing facing, towered head left, vertical scepter in right hand, cornucopiae in left, eagle at feet to left and looking upward right
    Minted in Lugdunum. November A.D. 195 to 19th February A.D. 196
    Reference:- RIC 23d (R2)

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    The OP reverse type is an interesting reverse type and is one that also occurs on the early coins of Septimius Severus from Rome. Example below from my collection.

    Septimius Severus Denarius

    Obv:- IMP CAE L SEP-T SEV PERT AVG. Laureate head right
    Rev:- SAEC FRVGIF COS, Saeculum Frugiferum., radiate, standing left, holding winged caduceus and trident
    Minted in Rome. A.D. 193
    Reference:- BMCRE -. RIC IV 19 (Rated Rare); RSC 622.

    About 8 examples from 2 reverse dies known to Curtis Clay. This example from a different reverse die to the British Museum example.

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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Embarrassing :shame::oops:
     
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  9. cwart

    cwart Senior Member Supporter

    We still love ya Bing.... ;)
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    :D
     
  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...kool coin Ro...he's one of the 'year of the five' series...and great coin @maridvnvm ...def a diff i have him as Caesar under Sept. Sev...haha its all good @Bing ..to err is human, to forgive, Roman godlike ^^

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  12. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is my Clodius Albinus denarius and the notations from my notebook.

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    Denarius of Clodius Albinus as caesar, Obverse: D CLOD SEPT ALBIN CAES “Decimus Clodius Septimius Albinus caesar.” Reverse: MINER PACIF COS II “Minerva peace consul II” Minerva the goddess of wisdom, patron of the arts and hope of men in war. In this case she offering an olive branch of peace. COS II = year 194. Sear 6144

    Decimus Clodius Septimius Albinus declined an offer to became emperor but signed on to an agreement with Septimius Severus to rule over Spain, Gaul and Britain while Septimius dealt with Pescennius Niger. Once Septimius has liquidated Niger, he turned his attentions to solidifying his family’s rule over the empire. After Septimius made his older son, Caracalla, caesar, Albinus realized that he had been pushed aside. That forced his hand and he went to war with Septimius. Septimius defeated and killed him thus removing the last of the obstacles that had prevented him from becoming the ruler of Rome.
     
  13. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member Supporter

    I'm a very superficial numismatist, so I don't know much about my coins beyond who the bust depicts and whether or not I like the way that it looks :oops:. But, based on the information and examples in this thread, I'm concluding that mine is as Caesar:
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    One thing that I know for certain though, it's not an As!! (Friendly jab @Bing ;))
     
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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    One thing that I know for certain though, it's not an As!! (Friendly jab @Bing ;))[/QUOTE]

    Aw, man. My second mistake in my life. Yhe other was when I thought I was wrong anf turned out to be right........:wacky:
     
  15. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member Supporter

    There would be no fun in taking jabs when the rare opportunity arises if not for the track record of otherwise valuable accuracy! :smuggrin:
     
  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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