I require the forum assistance - ONE YEAR & THREE DAYS before surrender of the city

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  1. SwK

    SwK Junior Member

    British & USA linked via the British Civil War of 1644-1645

    Dear all looking for further information linking the British family and the USA

    ONE YEAR & THREE DAYS before surrender of the city

    It is seldom when researching a coin that Gt.Britain and the USA are 'tied together'. This has happened during the British Civil War in the North Western City of Chester UK. During 1644 to 1645 for one year and three days the City was controlled by the Royalists, governed by Lord Byron (related to the poet).

    There was no doubt that coins were minted at Chester to pay for troops and civil debt. Written on manuscript held in Chester today an

    "Order, 31st January 20 Charles I,

    That plate of the citty as will amounte to the sum of one hundred pounds shall be forthwith converted into coyne for the necessary use and defense of this citty and towards the payment of the citties debts"

    The mintmark of three gerbs which form one of the charges upon the city's armorial shield and the letters C H S T between the horses of the feet of the horses.

    CHST.jpg

    Charles 1 Half Crown minted at Chester 1644-45
    The horse on is a peculiar form, especially about the chest which is very large; the tail much waved; under the feet the letters CHST. Behind the king a Plume. Rev. Oval shield garnished like that of Tower mint MM. Three Gerbs, the arms of Chester

    During the Civil War Sir William Brereton fought for the Parliamentarians and surrounded the City of Chester until is surrendered. Sir William Brereton (1550-1631) built his country house in 1586 to the north of the village of Brereton parish of Brereton in the North West of England near Chester, Cheshire, England.

    The family Brereton’s travelled to New England the family were interested in the New England settlements. One trip was on the 'Concord sanctioned by Sir Walter Raleigh' another stayed at Elizabeth's Island. A portrait of Sir William, dated 1579, with a cameo of Queen Elizabeth in his cap, is at the Detroit Institute of Arts.

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  3. tulipone

    tulipone Well-Known Member

    I'm not really sure what you are after or if you are writing the information to go alongside the coin?

    Either way, my town of Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire is the birthplace of Oliver Cromwell who was initially one of the main protagonists of Charles I (and who signed his execution warrant). About the time of this coin, Charles I had taken Huntingdon and had quartered in the George on the High Street. Cromwell, Thomas Fairfax and others where well on the way with the New Model Army and the regicide of Charles.

    Actually the Civil War caused many British royalists and other disaffected people to move to the colonies. Case in point, Huntington, New York was founded early 1650s by folk from Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire. I am sure that the east coast is filled with ancestors of the period.

    If you like the coins of the period, have a look at British Comonwealth of the period.
     
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  4. SwK

    SwK Junior Member

    Hi thanks, looking for further links of Sir William Brereton being an early family in New England?

    Cromwell, I have a small collection of Cromwelliana I bought 30+ years ago. It was on exhibition at the ANA museum. It included the early death mask, his eating charger, his penny bible + his peaked hat and not to forget a pair of gauntlets. :)

    Thanks
    Jeff
     
  5. tulipone

    tulipone Well-Known Member

    Since Huntingdon Council decided that they no longer wished to continue financial support to the Cromwell museum, I am now a volunteer there; we are currently waiting for the trust to be completed.

    I'd love to see pictures of your items. There are 6-7 death masks in the collection and are not too rare, but I have never seen a period Soldiers' Pocket Bible, just the 1800s reprint. We also have a number of his personal effects that are absolutely known to have been his generally through his descending family. I have a few Commonwealth period coins.
     
  6. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    I was an intern there when we were setting up the exhibit! I remember being paranoid that I might knock one of the humidity detectors or something onto the hat and damage it.
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    How we dallied when these folks diddled......

    Reference check after the fact..........
     
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