AV Stater ND Koson circa 45BC

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  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Schwere SS Panzerabteilung 503 had 39 KonigsTigers on Jan1/45. Against the Soviet masses of armour, these young crews knocked out over 600+ Soviet tanks/even more trucks/antitank guns. The opposite of what was shown in "Fury"
     
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  3. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    o and in case ppl were confused, i asked panzerman why he had that name. Turned out his uncle was Karl Brommann, famous tank ace of WWII. He won the knights cross to iron cross, in case some weren't familiar with the reward, it was much more difficult to earn than US equivalent - congressional medal of honor.
     
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  4. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    I do not wish to be in the company of those who glorify Nazi war criminals! Shameful. Moderator - please delete my account.
     
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  5. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    These were elite units, they didn't do stupid edited like murdering civilians. Even the nazi knew to keep their crack troops away from the atrocities.
    Solders fight to fulfill their duty, to their nation and people, they are never at fault.

    You think others want to be in the company of those that couldn't understand such simple matter?
     
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  6. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    dQUOTE="brassnautilus, post: 2372160, member: 74300"]
    Solders fight to fulfill their duty, to their nation and people, they are never at fault.
    [/QUOTE]

    That was certainly the excuse heard over and over again at Nuremberg and elsewhere. Still, Untersturmführer Braumann spent two and a half years in a British prison following the war. Not nearly long enough.

    I bid you all farewell.
     
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  7. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    lol. countless US service men spent years in Vietnamese prisoner camps, they are all criminals then?
    grow a brain!
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Enough ! Either get the thread back on track and about coins or it will be closed !
     
  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    *awkward*

    Cool OP-eagle, panzer ...

    => ummm, here is one of my favourite eagles ... Elagabalus


    ancient b.jpg
     
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  10. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Amen to that! Beautifull coin.
    I think the eagle is such a majestic bird/symbol....I guess that is why so many nations, past/present use it as their national symbol EDITED:
    This is ancient coin section ~ There is no need to mention modern political countries or organization.
     
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  11. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    If it's an ancient coin depicting a tank :smuggrin: , sure. If not - please focus on metal that was/is used for payments, not for invasions ...
     
  12. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Ancient tank?
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    Challenge accepted!
     
  13. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I was thinking the same thing, but only had a AV Fanam from Mysore with elephant from Tipu Sultan (who used them vs British in Seven Years War) Hannibal, the great Carthaginian General used them at Cannae with success. The Roman army was wiped out. Indian King Poros used them vs Alexander III of Macedon, but lost the Battle.
     
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  14. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    There were a couple interesting articles in the last issue of Ancient Warfare magazine that focused on the use of elephants in combat. As I'm unfamiliar with elephants generally but I do take issue with some of the authors' conclusions about their ineffectiveness. My understanding is in modern day India where elephants are used as beasts of burden, once they kill a handler they become uncontrollable. Something in them changes, like they realize they have the power, and the elephant has to be put down. If this is a real situation, how did the ancients overcome this behavior? Further, I think it's interesting that young males having been expelled from their packs, will join together and raid villages for their alcohol stores. Nothing worse than a bunch of drunk teenage elephants!:eek:
     
  15. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Elephants as awe inspiring as they would be to the opposing Army, yet these animals are vulnerable to enemy archers/ infantry with javelins/ catapults. So, like with modern day tanks, they would need infantry support to protect their exposed flanks. Hannibals army did this to perfection, while King Poros did not. Elephants usually had 6 skilled bowmen on top to protect the animal from enemy soldiers that came close, plus they worn had armour...like the medieval knights. Historians always say that the panzer/tank formations replaced the mounted cavalary/Knights/Hussars/Dragoons....but in actual fact it was the "war elephant".
     
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  16. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    A really nice example Panzerman. I also liked your uncle's pictures. Here's mine.

    Brutus Thracian AV Stater Heritage.jpg
     
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  17. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thank you for nice words. My uncle passed in 2011, hopefully he is in heaven. He also was an avid collector of Holy Roman Empire Thalers. Actually, my dad got me into coins when i was eight years old....it has become a "good" addiction. Plus, you learn so muchhistory.....which was my fav. subject in school.
     
  18. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I forgot your example is NICE!
     
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