Official - 2016 Gold Centennial Coins to be SMALLER!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by V. Kurt Bellman, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Coin World has reported that the soon to be released Centennial Mercury/Winged Liberty dime will NOT BE THE DIAMETER OF ITS DESIGN INSPIRATION. Coin World has stated the diameter at 16.5mm, the exact size of the current 1/10 ounce Gold Eagle, and NOT the diameter of the original Mercury/Winged Liberty Dime, which is 17.9mm. So don't rush out and place an order thinking you're getting a gold dime, in the same way the 2014 gold Kennedy was a true sized half dollar. What you'll be getting is a 1/10 ounce, 1/4 ounce, or 1/2 ounce bullion coin with a design "stolen" from classic coins. All will be smaller than implied. In recent months, the Mint has cleverly stopped saying "same" diameter in favor of "similar" diameter.

    To me, it is or it ain't. These ain't.

    The Mint could not repeal physics and chemistry, so they decided to hide the truth from their customers.
     
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  3. thetracer

    thetracer Active Member

    Yea, if the soon to be had gold half were the same diameter, they would have to be awfully thin, foil-like, easy to bend!
     
  4. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Bingo! Science always wins in the end.
     
  5. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Well good thing the Carr overstrikes will be then :smuggrin:
     
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  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Have you looked at them? They are undersized stampings on huge pucks, with a gihugeous plain area.
     
  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    He's coming out with actual overstrikes of the designs in a few weeks kurt ;)

    But shhh... don't tell anyone :muted:
     
  8. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    It figures.
     
  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Like, who'm I gonna tell?
     
  10. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I'd rather have bullion coins inspired by the classic 1916 designs than an AGE any day. This doesn't affect whether I'm going to buy them or not. :)
     
  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Mr. St. Gaudens is going to be very disappointed in you, Paul. :beaver:
     
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  12. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    LOL. Considering how he's been dead over 100 years, I think I'm safe. Besides, I'd rather have a 2009 UHR than the equivalent dollar amount of AGEs. It's more faithful to the original design. :)
     
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  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Augie's gone?!?!? I'm not sure I can cope. I need to take a few minutes. I'm getting a little verklempt here. Next you'll be telling me Weinman's dead too. :(
     
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  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I don't collect 'fish scales'........especially high priced ones.
     
  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    When do these go on sale? They're on the mint list in upcoming products, but no specific date.
     
  16. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    The dime comes our first in late April. The others are still TBD
     
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    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  18. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Any pricing info on these yet?
     
  19. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Hmmmm. Well, I can't say I'm surprised. lol I kept wondering how they could retain the same diameter and make them thinner without having the design come through on the other side AND fully strike up. The answer: they couldn't.

    So really the folly in their plans was going with .999 pure gold for these. How can they be in the business and not know? I'd rather see an 80/20, 90/10 composition and true to size examples made. Its a pity. I'll still buy at least one if the prices are reasonable. I guess 1.4 mm isn't that drastic.
     
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  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    This is what happens when Congress gets into the business of micromanaging coin mintage.
     
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  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Congress had NOTHING to do with this issue. This issue is entirely the "brainstorm" of the geniuses (as if...) at the U.S. Mint and the Citizens Coin Advisory Committee. They recently got two new members at CCAC. Maybe the new members can THINK. Clearly the CCAC as it was previously constituted could NOT. Strange as it seems, the staff of the Banking Committees at Congress know coins far better than current U.S. Mint management. I have sat in on meetings with Mint management. They are embarrassingly clueless career bureaucrat political appointees with no coin knowledge. They are marketers, pure and simple.

    Remember, these geniuses at the Mint are the same people who thought it was perfectly normal to gauge demand for the Truman and Eisenhower C&C sets based on the Roosevelt one with a regular proof presidential dollar. They know less than zero worth knowing.
     
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