Double stamp penny dates 10 years apart

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Timberandaxel, Mar 17, 2023.

  1. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I doubt that true coin collectors would try to pass the "fake" cent off. However, the uninitiated are fooled into buying "fake" mint errors over and over. I, for one, do not collect real or fake coins due to the chance I might make a mistake. I do have some interesting coins that my father left me, but I'm not that interested to find out their legitimacy of a fake coin. I have trouble enough trying to get quality legitimate coins.
     
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  3. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    Well just how people can configure an atm card to pay out a number of bills instead of denomination which they did that in my times of banking, can you imagine what people can do now? Poor guy though, let’s just say not knowledgeable about Cameras with time stamping and coding of transactions. Several banks hit taking thousands. I know a long speech for a Lincoln but no telling what one can do today. Like my Lincolns by the way. I can say it is and really good if it is legit. I no where near can assume anything of how or what. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The reverse looks like the 1957 die made the second strike.
    The obverse looks like the 1967 die made the second strike.
    That would require 4 different false dies. I don't understand the coin.
    Maybe Fred will join in with the correct answer.
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It’s a real coin but it’s not a real mint error.
     
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  6. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Barring @Fred Weinberg, or @JCro57 giving a reasonable explanation, I would call ANA and asked about submitting it for authentication.

    Inquiring minds need to know.
     
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  7. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It's clear that the second strike (1967) was delivered by a pair of counterfeit dies. These are not that hard to make. The irregular surface and the soft, blended overlap between primary (genuine) and secondary (fake) design elements are characteristic of crude counterfeits.
     
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  8. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Sorry Larry, no Fred (he IS retired now), but Mike is just going to have to do...

    OP: Mike's a "newbie" - he only started collecting and dealing in errors in 1997... but he is the senior editor of the site we always send folks to: https://www.error-ref.com/about-the-authors/
     
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  9. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    I've also been writing Coin World's Collectors' Clearinghouse column steadily for the past 13 years.
     
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  10. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Mike, I thought that was just your side hustle? :)
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Hi Mike. I believe you but I can't understand the reverse of the coin.
    The reverse looks like the 1957 die made the second strike over the 1967 die strike.
     
  12. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It's hard for me to determine which design was struck last. But it was silly of me to assume that the later design was that of the counterfeit die. It's certainly possible that a genuine 1967 cent was struck by a pair of counterfeit 1957-D dies.
     
  13. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I remember seeing such for sale on Ali-Express about 10+ years ago, for $1 or so. There were a large variety of such "special" coins using the old mint equipment that the US supplied them. IMO Jim
     
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  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

     
  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Darn the delayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
     
  16. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Struck with fake dies.

    It is worth 1 cent.
     
  17. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    this one isn't genuine either

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  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Help me with the proper term for stuff like this. Are false dies and fake dies the same thing or is there a difference?
     
  19. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    false and fake are synonyms.

    And ANYTHING used outside the Mint to strike an image/design/lettering/mintmarks on a coin or planchet is considered a "die" even if it isn't a "coin die."
     
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