Ancients => baby got Baktria

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  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well, I started-out just bidding-on the super cool fourree ... but then I started thinking that it'd be better to have an authentic example to emphasize the cool-factor

    => and here is the end result ...


    BAKTRIA, Indo-Greek Kingdom. Hermaios.
    Fourrée AR Drachm

    Circa 105-90 BC
    Diameter: 17 mm
    Weight: 1.88 grams
    Obverse: Hermaios on horse right
    Reverse: Zeus enthroned facing slightly left, raising hand and holding scepter; monogram to right
    Reference: Cf. Senior, Hermaios H2cD; cf. Bopearachchi 8A; cf. HGC 12, 296 (all refs for official issue)
    Other: 12h … toned, some deposits and breaks in plating

    Baktria Indo Greek Hermaios Fourree.jpg



    BAKTRIA, Indo-Greek Kingdom. Antialkidas Nikephoros, AR Drachm
    Circa 130-120 BC
    Diameter: 17 mm
    Weight: 2.46 grams
    Obverse: Diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right, wearing crested helmet adorned with bull’s horn and ear
    Reverse: Zeus seated facing slightly left, holding Nike and scepter; to left, forepart of elephant right; monogram to right
    Reference: Bopearachchi 12A; HGC 12, 258
    Other: 12h … toned, minor porosity

    Baktria Indo Greek Antialkidas Nike.jpg


    => oh, and here are the two new reverses in a pose-down with each other ...

    Baktria Indo Greek Hermaios Fourree b.jpg Baktria Indo Greek Antialkidas Nike b.jpg


    ... yah, I thought it was a pretty cool score

    I stole both examples "under their initial estimates" (cha-ching!)



    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  3. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Nice!
     
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  4. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    A seriously cool series of coins, especially the tetradrachms. The only one I have in my collection:
    00018x0.jpg
    Baktria, Greco-Baktrian Kingdom, Demetrios I, circa 200 - 185 BC
    Æ Triple Unit, 31mm, 12.49g
    Obverse: Head of elephant three quarters facing to right with raised trunk and wearing bell.
    Reverse: BASILEWS DHMHTRIOU, Caduceus, monogram in left field.

    Reference:Bopearachchi 5E
    SNG ANS 209
    MIG 108b

    Provenance:
    CNG Electronic Auctions 164, lot 164, $225 ($252) May 2007
     
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  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    That's a very sweet example, Ken-D (congrats)

    => I happen to have one of those sweeties as well ... I'm callin' my version a Trichalkon (is that also correct?)

    Demetrius I Trichalkon
    200-185 BC
    Diameter: 29.5 mm
    Weight: 12.61 grams
    Bactrian Kings, Demetrius I, bronze Attic trichalkon of:
    Obverse: Head of elephant with bell hanging from neck
    Reverse: Caduceus.
    Reference: Bopearachchi-16, Mitchiner-1086, SNG ANS 209
    Other: LOVELY brown and green patina, great example


    elephant.jpg

    NOTE => this is Demetrios I (Bactrian King) which is different from Demetrios I (Seleukid King) ... yah, I've fallen for that trick a few times, eh?

    "Bactria was a country in Central Asia, mostly on the territory of modern Afghanistan. The land along the Silk Route was an important transit centre for trade between Orient and Occident over countless centuries. Nevertheless, the history of Bactria is hardly known. Even the reigns of the Bactrian kings are difficult to ascertain." ... wiki
     
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  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice additions, Steve!
     
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  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Oh, and please post any relevant, or irrelevant examples ...

    => maybe your Baktrian coins, or your elephants, or your fourrees, etc, etc

    ... or whatever floats your boat, my coin-friends!!

    Cheers
     
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  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I love that!
     
  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yup, I must admit that Ken's example is very sweet
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, how 'bout I toss-in my other sweet fourree?

    KINGS of MACEDON. Philip III Arrhidaios.
    Fourrée Fifth Tetradrachm

    323-317 BC
    Copying Amphipolis mint issue struck under Polyperchon, circa 318–317 BC
    Diameter: 13 mm
    Weight: 1.94 grams
    Obverse: Head of Apollo right, wearing tainia
    Reverse: Youth on horseback right; shield below
    Reference: For prototype, cf. Le Rider pl. 46, 29 & 32; cf. Troxell, Studies, Group 8, 382; cf. SNG ANS 731-5
    Other: 8h … VF, toned, breaks in plating exposing bronze core
    From the collection of a Southern Pathologist, purchased from Antioch Associates, 23 February 1998

    Kings of Macedon Fourree.jpg
    Baktria Indo Greek Hermaios Fourree.jpg

    ... they look kinda cool together, eh?
     
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  11. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Another Hermaios Tetradrachm:
    HermSilverWeb.jpg

    and a bronze square unit:
    HermaiosCapHorseWeb2.jpg
     
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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweet examples, THC ... thanks for posting, coin-bro

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hmmm, curious?

    Which of my two new OP-coins is your favourite?


    1) the sweet fourree ($120 hammer) ... $150 estimate

    Baktria Indo Greek Hermaios Fourree.jpg

    2) or the cool authentic ($95 hammer) ... $100 estimate

    Baktria Indo Greek Antialkidas Nike.jpg


    ... thanks
     
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  14. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    My vote goes to the elephants !
    AntialkidasBop12BvarWeb.jpg
     
  15. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Authentic is my favorite.
     
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, two votes for the authentic, eh? (funny, because I totally got lured-in by the cool fourree)

    THC => hey, your 1/2-elephant is facing the other direction (man, apparently I need to get a 3rd example!!)


    ;)

    ... thanks guys
     
  17. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    I vote for the authentic one as well but both are really awesome coins.
     
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  18. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Apples and oranges for me. I like a few fourees in my collection, especially if they clearly demonstrate the base metal core, but have enough silver for eye-appeal. Anyway, if you can't decide between two coins, the best policy is to get them both. :)
     
  19. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Well spotted ! There are different versions of the Antialkidas drachms, with helmet, kausia, or bare headed. Each has a standard direction in which the elephant is facing.
    The one i showed is the uncommon exception for the helmeted type.
    Antiakidas is one of the more interesting Indo-Greek rulers as he is one of the few referenced in contemporary written accounts which have been preserved, like this from the Indian Heliodorus pillar:
    AntialkName.jpg
     
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  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Uh oh. Better add the 1/2 elephant left to your shopping list :D
     
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  21. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    What is that picture? Elephant chromosomes? :D
     
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