2016 Silver Eagle oddity

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Garlicus, Mar 5, 2016.

  1. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

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  3. Paul M.

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  4. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    I'm basing my (guess) off of the fact that it's on the anvil die (bottom), on the lowest possible part of the die right in middle of the coin. Which is normally where grease/debris ends up getting trapped..... The OP coin obviously, not the others mentioned in the thread
     
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  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Well it looks like a hit, how coild many coins have the same hit in the same place? How about a a hit, no on the coin, but on a working hub. The hub has the same raised dsin the con does, but if it takes a hit and is then used to make a die, coins from that die will show the same apparent hit on every piece.
     
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  6. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    By George I think conder may be on to something... not a die dent but a "hub dent." I didn't even think of that. Makes sense though as to why it looks like an incuse hit but also looks like it was a die artifact. :)

    Positive (coin), negative (die), positive (hub):wacky:
     
  7. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    Sounds like we may have a 2016 ASE variety/error here, no?
    I have another that looks like the start of the 'problem', in addition to the other 8 coins with the issue in question. I'll take a pic when I get home from work.
     
  8. Themadhouse6

    Themadhouse6 New Member

    And that's why NGC & PCGS are the top graders, and why their grade 70's command a higher price at resale.
     
  9. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    I'm wondering if the other 2 companies graded them 70s due to the coin material being flawed, opposed to the actual minting/striking of the coin, not to say I would agree with that.
     
  10. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    Here are a couple of pics of the early stage of the "issue".

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  11. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    "Beginning?"... If there are examples in various stages it wouldn't be a hub issue

    That pic is too bleached out to tell anything
     
  12. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    Could this coin be the odd one out of the bunch that didn't sit on the hub the same? IDK, just throwing theories out there. I do have 9 others, which all have the same, more pronounced, "mark" on them and another poster (Paddy54) stated that he saw this on at least one coin at a show over the weekend. Paddy54 - "And I may add looked at some today at a show and yes some had this and some didn't."
     
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  13. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Post a pic of the anomaly on each coin consecutively in one post and let's see if @mikediamond can chime in with that he thinks when.he logs on. Try to get the photo lineup up asap now that I've tagged him
     
  14. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

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  15. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    Wow! From what I see, that looks the same as my coins.
    A little pricey for me, but maybe I should grab it, in case this turns into something, lol.
     
  16. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    I took a quick look at a few other years, and it appears on some of those as well.

    Here it is in 2011:

    Still2011.jpg

    In 2005:
    Still2005.jpg


    In 2003:
    Still2003.jpg


    Looking at them individually, it would be easy to dismiss it as PMD/coin hit (which I'm sure I have done), but as we can see, there is a pattern of the same or similar anomaly in the same area over different years, and multiple coins in the same year (I have 8 from 2016, after selling one to a friend, and with a quick look, multiples within other years).
     
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