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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Quant.Geek, Mar 5, 2016.

  1. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    I usually don't buy holed coins, but at times, there are coins that are nearly impossible to collect or are extremely expensive and these types of coins are great to fill that sweet spot. Here are a few coins in my collection that have holes in them. So go ahead and post your damaged beauties...

    Byzantine Empire: Constantine X Ducas (1059-1067) AR ⅔ Miliaresion, Constantinople (Sear-1851; DOC 6d)

    Obv: + ӨKЄ ROHӨЄI; Theotokos orans standing facing; MHP ӨV across field
    Obv: + ӨKЄ RO/HӨЄI KШN/CTANTINШ/ΔЄCΠOTH/TШ ΔUKAv in seven lines; — • — above and below legend

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    Empire of Nicaea: John III Ducas-Vatazes (1222-1254) Trachy, Thessalonica Mint (Sear-2124; LBC 445-47)

    Obv: AP X/M in field; Bust of St. Michael nimbate, wearing divitision, and panelled loros of simple type; right hand hold sword, resting over shoulder; left hand holds globus cruciger
    Rev: IШ ΔЄCΠOTHC in two columnar groups. Emperor seated upon throne without back wearing stemma divitision and jeweled loros of traditional type; right hand holds scepter cruciger; left hand holds anexikakia; In left field, an outstretched wing; Manus Dei in upper right field

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    Bulgaria: Konstantin I Asen (1257-1277) Æ Trachy (Raduchev & Zhekov 1.4.3-6, Youroukova & Penchev-39)

    Obv: Facing bust of Christ Pantokrator; IC XC/+ + across field
    Rev: Half-length facing bust of Konstantin I, holding labarum and globus cruciger

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    Sogdiana, Chach: Unknown Ruler (3rd-5th c.) AE Unit (Shagalov & Kuznetsov-1)

    Obv: Portrait of a ruler in profile facing left surrounded by a linear rim. The ruler has an almond shaped eyes, a large nose, sloping forehead, pointed chin with a forked beard, and small mustache. Hair is flowing down to his shoulders and individual strands of curly hair is intercepted by a tiara, which ends tied behind his head with two loops back down to his head. The top of the tiara has a crescent-shaped pommel attached. On the neck of the ruler is a jewlery with a round medallion in the middle.
    Rev: Tamgra surrounded by Sogdian legend - c'c'n n'pn'c wnwn xw b - Chach people ruler - King Vanvan

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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My coin is holey-er than yours.

    Divus Augustus as by Nerva
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    Some holes are more interesting than others. Holes made in antiquity outrank ones made for 20th century jewelry. This one removed a countermark of a boy's head commonly found on this type.
    Septimius Severus/Julia Domna AE35 Stratonicea
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    with the c/m
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    This Augustus still has part of the iron nail that once held it to some piece of wood. The hole and nail do not bother me but I really, really wish the guy with the hammer had hit it just a little more gently rather than smashing the portrait so extremely.
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    I don't think any of you could understand how very much I would like to find a few (7?) antoniniani of Postumus each with four holes whether or not they were still in the form of this bracelet shown in my c.1858 photo.
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Those are toughies QG, nice additions.
     
  5. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Nice coins! The portrait on the Chach coin is particularly intriguing.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't mind holes when placed in strategic location, unlike the one below.
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    QUINTILLUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP CM AVR CL QVINTILLVS AVG, radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: PAX AVGVSTI, Pax standing left, holding olive branch and transverse sceptre, A in left field
    Struck at Rome, 270 AD
    2.2g, 20mm
    RIC 26
     
  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i don't have any holed coins, but i've always been curious as to how this mark was made. below and right to the "dimple" . it doesn't go all the way through, but it's perfectly round and has a white deposit in the bottom.

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  8. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    @dougsmit: There is definitely something beautiful about the four-holed Divus Augustus as, especially with that green patina. I also like the Augustus with that nail. That is something I would definitely pick up just because of the nail and wood that is still present. What I find stunning is the ability for you to identify the coin bracelet in that picture! Outstanding!

    @Mat: Due to the fragile nature of the miliaresion, there was a tendency for these coins to chip and crack. Furthermore, several of these coins were intentionally holed due to the powerful image of the Virgin Mary. It seems it was quite popular to wear these coins. Even the DOC and Sear plate coins have holes in them.

    @ancientcoinguru: That Chach coin is pretty scarce and usually found is poor condition, but this coin has a very nice strike, especially the legend on the back.
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    http://www.classicalcoins.com/flans1.html
    The above link starts the 8 page discussion that explains more than most people want to know about this question but it is by far the best explanation online. I suggest you read all 8 pages or none. The best part comes in the last half.
     
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  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Well, tomorrow is Sunday. Going out for donuts.......:)
     
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  11. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    Holed coins are okay with me just as long they a considerable minority. I want variety in my collection after all in terms of grades, mintplaces, denominations, metals, periods, and holed…

    Michael VII Doukas, 2/3 miliaresion, Sear 1876:
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    On the obverse Mary with infant Jezyz, and on the reverse the legends says: The mother of God, help Michael Doukas the Despot.(Keep in mind it has a different meaning back then)

    And then two anonymous:
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  12. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Caracalla, 198 – 217 AD
    Æ28, Caria, Alabanda. 9.10 grams
    Obverse: AV K M - ANTWNINOC, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Reverse: ALABANDEWN, Tied laurel branches.
    References:
    SNGCopenhagen 15
    SNG Von Aulock 2401
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  13. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Mehrbandak Parthian Usurper to the Sassanian thrown.

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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Very cool OP Holy-Moley, Q-Geek!! (congrats)

    ... ummm, all I have is this Augustus example with a knife-jab in it ...


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  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    ISLAND OFF THRACE THASOS.jpg
    ISLAND OFF THRACE THASOS
    AR Trihemiobol
    OBVERSE: Satyr running left, holding kylix
    REVERSE: ΘΑΣ − ΙΩΝ Amphora Struck at Thasos, 411-350BC
    0,7 g, 12 mm;
    SNGCop 1030
     
  16. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    My favorite forato coin taught me a new word in Italian:
    forato = hole or drilled
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    280px-Monte_Forato_1.jpg Monte Forato
    Monte_Forato_4.jpg there are several neat pictures of the mountain
     
  17. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure I would admit to owning this coin...very admirable of you to give it a home!
     
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  18. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    My only holed coin, which I have turned into a necklace.
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  19. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    My 'hole-in-one' is this cheap but rather impulsive purchase of a Domitia fourree ---
    hence the 'hole':
    domitis fourree denarius.jpg
     
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