Just picked up this one. How is it NOT MS 65 PL?

So? What is your problem with that? Somebody gave their opinion. Is the problem that it isn't YOUR opinion?

 

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Exactly. The opinion of two individuals who held the coin thought it was virtually certain to green bean. Moreover, the same two agreed that they thought it was under graded. It is now being formally evaluated--we will let time tell what the official verdict is. Much ado about nothing--all the experts give their verdicts, and in the final analysis is 1) I like the coin 2) Only the TPGs and CAC can render their own verdicts.

 

The man didn't seem to understand where the other gentleman's post came from, so I pointed it out; pretty simple really.

 

MD, I think BooksB4Coins was citing the specific sentence why some here thought CAC was gonna evaluate by pics. As you said, they are not. I think someone got confused and thought a CAC evaluation/upgrade was happening via photos which is obviously impossible. BooksB4 and others weren't judging the coin per se, just that in the thread it appeared or someone thought CAC was now evaluating coins (not just yours) by photos.

Anyway, enough of that...keep us posted when you find out.

 

Again, keep us posted. And good luck, I'd be surprised if it doesn't bean (but I'm not an expert so what do I know ? ).

Was that toning I saw on the rims ? And if that coin had toning throughout....or was in the GSA box with the same grade(s) from NGC....how much MORE would you have had to pay ? Double ? Triple ?

 

[QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 2352785, He sent a friend at CAC the jpegs already, and I am told it will be green beaning.[/QUOTE]

This is where I got the idea . It sure sounds to me from this post at least that MD was telling us it already CAC'd from looking at the jpegs . Like I said , JMHO .

 

Yeah, but it was just an opinion not a submission. NOW, it has been officially submitted. Opinion of two friends in two different places, but an educated opinion---ok? MEA ULTIMA CULPA.

 

How long does it take for CAC to send it back ? 2 weeks ?

 

Congratulations! Best part of this: CAC (Mark Albanese) and every professional grader I know will tell you they cannot grade a coin using a photo. You should be very pleased that your dealer was able to get a preliminary opinion! That cannot be beat! [/QUOTE]

Not to be too picky, but isn't it John Albanese, not Mark?

 

JPC, unless the dealer does a ton of biz with CAC and has personal relationships with them I would be surprised if CAC 'tips their hand' as to the likelihood of beaning or not as a general rule. MD's friend may be the exception to the rule.

Even with today's hi-res photos, if you told someone a coin was likely to CAC and then upon getting it in hand you said otherwise you'd risk disappointing the client.

CAC makes $$$ by evaluating coins, so they don't want to dissuade folks from sending 'em in !

 

LOL. The purpose of my reply to @Insider was to needle him about getting JA's name wrong. He's always challenging people about Numismatics, so I thought I would bust his chops.

I made a 20 coin submission to CAC. I went to Lost Dutchman's B&M to review the coins prior to sending. I achieved 70% pass, so I agree about getting CAC trained eyes on coins prior to submission.

 

JPC, what does CAC charge per coin and how long did you wait to get your 20 back ?

 

If you submit through a dealer, you get charged $12 (If memory serves) for every coin submitted whether it receives a bean or not. It took about 4-5 weeks to complete the process. That is from the time I dropped them off at the B&M and they got them back.

If you submit through an individual who has CAC privileges, you only get charged for the coins that get the bean.

I'm not sure what the pricing structure is today. You can check the CAC site as they have it all listed.

 

$12.50 per coin at a dealer member, whether it certifies or not. Turnaround is approximately a month. Coins that I have sent in via my dealer friend normally take 4-5 weeks from sending them off to receiving them back. BTW, it is John Albanese, not Michael.

 

Either of you guys bought from an Ebay seller called wholesaledmpls ? Has lots of great stuff, not sure on his pricing.

 

5 business days generally for individual submission privileges.

 

Thanks for the clarification on coin submission pricing. I couldn't remember the per coin price.

I did know it was John Albanese. Insider posted "Michael" and I replied to him about the error.

 

No I haven't. For pricing, do you visit HA auction archives? Also look at HA current listings. In the listing they have a nice pricing table with multiple price comparison from different industry sources. I find this most helpful.

 

I just took a quick look at his listings. IMO, his photos are presented to enhance the field/device contrast. To support my thinking, he has 1 neg. feedback that touches on the disparity between the photo of the coin and it's appearance in-hand.

On the positive side, he does offer return privileges. If you want to take a gamble, at least you have some recourse aside from eBay buyer guarantee policy.

I'd be wary though. Do you want a potential return hassle? Up to you.

 

For some definitions of "great".....