1998-d die clip ?

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  1. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    CLIP or not ? et1998-d-1.JPG et1998-d-2.JPG
     

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  3. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Negative. The shape is too irregular - one should expect it to be quite straight (edge of sheet clip) or curved at the same radius as the coin (stamping clip). Further, you should expect to see the rim feather into the beginning of the clip, rather than the abrupt cutoff we see here, because when struck there wasn't enough metal there to finish the rim at the edge. The same can be said of any lettering at the edge of the cutoff.

    This one had a catastrophic postmint encounter. I am pleased to see Lincoln himself intact; he's my personal hero. :)
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    A clip occurs on an improperly cut blank. This is not a clip. You can see from the irregular edge that it had to be produced after it left the Mint. Therefore, it is PMD.

    There is no such thing as a die clip.

    Chris
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks like a home made cut job. No matter what it really is, is not a clip, it's PMD.
     
  7. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    Of all the others I have to agree with you on this one since the mint is making such quality coins i should say just cent
     
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  8. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Good point!
     
  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Your title is incorrect. There is no such thing as a Die Clip. The clip would occur on the Planchet and not caused by a Die. Also Zinc rot would occur on a part of a Copper plated Zinc Cent that has a plating issue such as a Plate Bubble that ruptured and the Zinc is exposed. In your Cent, it is simply PMD. Somehow your Cent was cut or damaged and when the Zinc was exposed there was Zinc Rot but the Zinc rot did not necessarily cause that.
     
  10. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    We taxpaying citizens are paying 1.23 c per coin for this garbage
     
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You'll pay even more if you throw them in your garbage can.;)
     
  12. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

  13. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    Puppy monkey baby:jawdrop:
     
  14. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    You don't have to throw them in the garbage they disintegrate on their own:bigtears:
     
  15. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

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  16. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Rot never sleeps.
     
  17. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    Pattyman if I'm not mistaken the blank press is a series of blank dies which cut out the blanks they may not be an impression die but they are still dies thus my statement is correct
     
  18. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    Since zhink absorbs static electricity and even a human body has static electricity makes this coin a corrosion magnet thus all the damage
     
  19. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

     

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  20. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No.. still incorrect. They are not dies but rather punches called Rams not Dies. Dies have and image on them and they are used to treansfer an image on a blank planchet when it is striking it. A Ram is more like a cookie cutter.
    Quote "The blank presses have a bank of punches (or rams) which travel downward through the strip of coinage metal and into a steel bedplate which has holes corresponding to the punches." closed quote
    I want to share this webpage with you - http://www.fleur-de-coin.com/articles/blanks-planchet
     
  21. usmc60

    usmc60 SEMPER FI

    No matter how you explain it it is still a punch die and a die doesn't necessarily mean it has to leave an impression and of over 30,000 members there has to be a machinist that it can explain this to you no disrespect meant we have a difference of opinion having run a punch die press in my earlier years not at the mint and often had to change the dies depending on what I was punching oh I just remembered when I was in steel fabrication I also ran a punch that punched holes in 1 inch steel plates and every occasion we called them dies. cokie_monster.gif
     
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