Just picked up this one. How is it NOT MS 65 PL?

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  1. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Just got this coin, and it is really nice. Has Arctic frost all day, and incredibly deep mirrors. How did this one miss a 65PL? The scratch on the reverse is on the holder. Perhaps an under graded (by today's standards) 65PL? May submit minimum grade for upgrade or just leave it, knowing that I think it is under graded. 79s.jpg 79srev.jpg
     
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  3. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Nice one! I think it would very probably upgrade to 65PL. Nothing wrong with leaving it in the green label holder though.
     
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  4. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nice pickup. Personally from the pictures I am not sure it would upgrade, but it also very well might. Can just be a toss up at times.
     
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  5. K2Coins

    K2Coins GO GATORS

    Send her off to CAC ;)
     
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  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Thinking about it. Keep it in the OGH, and get the bean.
     
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  7. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    That's exactly what I would do.. It would look very nice in an OGH with a Gold Bean on it.
     
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  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Too many hits in the PFA.
     
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  9. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    Yep, I don't think the grade is right....and the holder is old too! Ewww, 2 problems right there.....you better send it to me, I'll take this coin with BOTH of it's problems off your hands free of charge :) lol

    Seriously though, congrats on such an attractive piece. Whether or not it would upgrade, I don't know. But I do know how much better it feels to own a coin where you wonder if it could upgrade instead of worrying that it might downgrade.
     
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  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  11. I like it where it is in that old green holder. TC
     
  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I agree. Think I will keep it there, and send it out for a bean, that it is very likely to get. Looks wise, the surfaces are cleaner than my 1883o PL MS 65+. Side by side, you would grade them the same. However, I like the idea of OGH and green or gold bean.
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You would probably get a higher grade but I'd take the old green holder over the upgrade. The upgrade is a chance and the OGL is a sure thing. :)
     
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  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I would launch that one to CAC.
     
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  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    • Gonna send it off next week for the beanie. Notice that after selling my toners, I am collecting high grade and high eye appeal PL coins. :)
     
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  16. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    NICE COIN-CONGRATS....
     
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  17. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Nice coin. I agree with the grade based on the pictures. I do like the fields as they appear to be very nice. Let us know if CAC blesses it with a sticker.
     
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  18. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I think a bean is a good idea. Nice coin. Today I think it's a 64+ low end 65. I see it with a green not a gold. I like the old green pcgs the best myself anyway
     
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  19. crypto79

    crypto79 Junior Member

    That may green but most likely won't gold. Gold stickers really have to smack of grade injustice and not the sort of technically could could higher. It is a decent coin so enjoy it as is.
     
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  20. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Too scuffy on the face. Even though they're not deep hits, there are still too many to get 65. Trying to judge from just the picture, it does look like PL by today's standards. Many coins in old PL holders would not be called PL today.
     
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  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    That is the camera. The face is more frosty, than hit on the face. There is a die crack on the top left of the obverse. Usually coins do not get downgraded for die cracks, but it might have happened. To me, I agree with the 64+ or low 65 evaluation. A local dealer friend is certain it will green bean, and he is sending it to CAC for me for free, as I have bought lots of coins from him.
     
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