What do you think the grades are for these two Russian coins? One of these has a grade from a TPG (not that it matters - especially in this case, it shouldn't matter... you'll see why later!)... the other one is raw. What would you grade them as? And, please excuse my poor pics! 1924 Russia 50 Kopeks - full cartwheel luster visible on both sides, the color is more silvery like the in the second coin than the golden/bronze-like hue shown: 1924 Russia 1 Rouble - no cartwheel luster visible on either side (except the sun on the obverse but that is probably due to an artificial cartwheel caused by the sun's rays):
