This is what My 2 x 2 information sheet looks like. My question is:- Is it O.K. to file this coin under 'Nero' (as all/most of my Romans are filed under rulers), or should it be filed under the city (like some of my Greeks)?
The type was struck in that region/city when it was semi-autonomous. I can't read the date below the altar. The type was struck during the reign of more than one emperor, Nero being one of them. I see them described as REGION, CITY, (year), during the time of (emperor) As for your question regarding where to file it, I'm not sure if they are usually considered provincials or Greeks. You could try browsing some old CNG auctions to see where they put it (they present the lots in a certain order). I'll do that in a few minutes and report back Edited: CNG catalogs them as Roman Provincial. Edited again: Regarding your title question, it is not a Seleucid I have thoroughly messed up this reply and am going to step away now
Seleucia Pieria was a town in the Syrian tetrapolis that included Apameia, Laodicea, and Antioch. It was founded by Seleucus I Nicator, hence it's name. In the 1st Century BC, Pompey allowed it to be governed by a descendant of Seleucus I, but it was unquestionably under Roman control. By the time of Nero, the Seleucids had all but disappeared. So definitely Roman Provincial.
@> TIF, >JA - Thank-you, Thank-you. You have answered my question and you have given me the information I was looking for. TIF, I WILL go to CNG to see how they list them to see if I can get any other ideas. (I should have thought of that first. Note: I did go there to find the coin, but I neglected to take notice of their 'listing' practice.)
Roman Imperials always have a fuzzy starting line to me. Do you start classifying them after Augustus as Roman coins, or when Rome effectively became the rulers? In many cases there is not a hard and fast rule. I believe CNG and others start classifying them as Provincial sometime around the Civil War onward. Nevertheless, this was struck under Nero, so every dealer I have ever seen classifies them as Roman Provincial.
Thanks for joining the discussion, Medoraman. It is good to know what the predominating view is, especially on something that is not black or white.
I tend to file semi-autonomous coins at the end of the Provincials rather than mixing them with the ruler's portrait coins. This is convenient when you really do not know when a coin as made. My recent purchase is this Smyrna with bust of the Senate which I believe is from the time of Valerian but I am less than certain.
Hello, Sorry I am late today at home sorting my coins again, I have three of the one's Doug shows, def. Roman provincial from Syria, one of my fav coins !! Myne are all a little bit different.
