Ancients => A Humble Addition to Thessaly-Ville!! => Pile-on!!

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  1. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I guess both of these Seleucid Tets show show evidence of crystallization:
    antiochus VII silver tet.JPG antiochus VII athena reverse punch stlyle.JPG Antiocus III Tet.JPG Antiochus II reverse.JPG
     
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  3. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I couldn't help myself with this portrait of Larissa. Too pretty to let go. Photo and text from CNG, don't have it in hand yet.

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    THESSALY, Larissa. Mid-late 4th century BC. Æ (17mm, 4.22 g, 6h). Head of the nymph Larissa right / Horse standing right, preparing to lie down. Rogers 288; BCD Thessaly II 390.2; HGC 4, 521. Good VF, dark green patina.
     
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  4. ancientnut

    ancientnut Well-Known Member

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    Larissa, Thessaly AR stater:
    From the BCD collection and with a pedigree back to the Clarence S. Bement collection, January 28, 1924, Lot 918.
     
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  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hey guys, thanks for posting your sweet Larissa examples (both are amazing)

    ... yah, Larissa is one of my favourite animal-coin watering-holes (they have some amazing horses and lion examples, eh?)

     

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  6. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    That BCD sure did get around!
     
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  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    yah, I love his collection-stuff (it is certainly a nice feeling having the ol' BCD associated with one/some of your coins)

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I wonder if he was the "Clio" of his day :D. Somewhere I read how many coins BCD amassed but I didn't bookmark it. Ardy would probably know.
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    How many total coins were in the BCD collection? How much value is added to a coin by its being ex BCD? I understand the desire to have coins of famous collections but a collection needs to be famous for something other than buying in bulk. Owners of large lots from BCD duplicates hope you will pay more for his lesser coins. How many BCD duplicates can the market absorb? Time will tell.
     
  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    There are many many, very rough ex-BCD coins, and since his collection was dispersed, you can find them spread all over the market at this point. In my opinion, provenance is icing on the cake, and in BCD's case I don't think the provenance is anything particularly special. He was merely rich, and merely bought up everything he could. Buy the coin, not the provenance.
     
  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    "But the coin not the provenance..."that's new!:D
     
  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    When the coin is nice and it comes with interesting provenance, all the better!

    As for "buy the coin, not the pedigree", there are some circumstances in which I would buy a lesser coin because of the pedigree. JQA comes to mind.
     
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  13. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Ya I would buy one of Adams' culls so long as it can be proven to be his.
     
  14. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Around 50,000 coins was the figure that was provided in a Forvm post that quoted BCD, I believe. I can see an ex BCD coin from one of the sale catalogs now used as standard references commanding a premium, but 50,000 coins includes tons of duplicates in every possible grade you can imagine, and as far as those are concerned, a junky cull that is ex BCD is still a junky cull.
     
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  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    There was some discussion earlier about how many coins with JQA provenance he actually collected, how many were simply bought in bulk and tossed into a drawer, how many may have been collected by family members and not by him personally. Does anyone know any more about this? There's provenance and then there's provenance.
     
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