" l'audace l'audace toujours l'audace" Didrachmae

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  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, Ale-G => that's an amazing OP-Winner!! (fantastic everything on that baby!!) ... I'm very jealous of that great coin-addition

    :rolleyes:

    Oh, and as always => great thread-additions by the usual suspects (great coins)
    Ummm, I'm not 100% sure what was pivotal, but buying each of these sweet AR RRs was pivotal in temporarily massaging my coin-addiction!! (is that good enough?)

    L Papi.jpg c piso lf frugi.jpg Copy of p nerva.jpg fabatus bx.jpg junius brutus b.jpg Lucius Axius.jpg L Papius Celsus She Wolf & Eagle.jpg M Plaetorius Mf Cestianus.jpg M caecilius.jpg Sextus Pompey.jpg

    => congrats again on such a fine OP-winner!!

    Cheers, coin-bro

     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @stevex6 Wow! Yummy coins! Lovem all!
     
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  4. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    That's an amazing newp Alegandalf! ;) Glad your trip was a success. Oh, and great coins everyone as usual!
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Outstanding acquisition Al. All the coins posted are fantastic.
     
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  6. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    sorta a pivotal period in rome's military history
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  7. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    a Superb winner Alegandron
    a real wanna have, also love other BC shown here :D
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Very nice! Celebrating Marius' joint Triumph with Catulus over the Cimbri... I understand Marius actually was lost in the battle, as the terrain was dry, a lot of dust was kicked up by the armies, and Marius marching back and forth until he was able to "collide" with the enemy. He was rather upset because Catulus actually won the day, and Sulla was pivotal with his Cavalry charge that broke the enemy cavalry's back. I have Rufus' Craw 324/1 and Sentius Craw 325/1 Victory types from 101 BCE, but not this one! Nice!
     
  9. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    Can also be considered a pivotal point in Rome's political history, as loyalty of legions shifted from the state/senate/people to commanding individuals through the struggle between Marius and Sulla following the cimbrian war.
    Basically Sulla had demonstrated such high success rate that made his troops believed he was a god, that fundamentally enabled dictatorship.
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Highly agree...the events quickly culminated in the Socii War with their Allies (which had made Rome extinct if they lost), and paved the way for the Imperators and the Civil War resulting in Augustus as Emperor... LOL, we can pin it all on Marius and Sulla's competitive grudge (Populari vs Optimates) towards each other... Years before, the Gracchii Bros TRIED to fix it!!!
     
  11. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    Nice didrachm!
    My favorite is an Iberian (Roman Republican Provincial) that could be the first living Roman on a coin. In 211 Publius Cornelius Scipio's father and uncle were killed in Spain. He went to Spain as a young man because others wanted to stay in Italy and fight there. He was able to take New Carthage (Cartagonova) and coins from there changed from having an Iberian or Carthaginian head to a Roman head. Some attribute this coin to Scipio.
    CELTIBÉRICAS e HISPANO ROMANAS.jpg
    This description is from the seller's web site, so use google translate if you
    yo no hablo español:
    CELTIBÉRICAS e HISPANO ROMANAS; CARTAGONOVA. Dicalco. Hacia 220 a.C. Vv lám. LVII-16. Peso 11'66 grs. Casi MBC+, pátina verde.
     
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  12. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    If the coin was minted in 220 BC then I think it's unlikely the depiction is of Scipio Africanus or his father. Like you said, his uncle and father were defeated and killed in 211 BC, so at the time the coin was issued, Scipio had just started his campaign against Hannibal's brother.
     
  13. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    I think this is mostly identified as after 209 BC (not 220 as in the Spanish description above) as it has been suggested that this coin was minted right after Scipio's take over of Carthago Novo and the male head that was normally minted on these issues (Melqart, Hannibal, what have you) was replaced with a clearly Roman style head that is completely different from the male style heads issued by the Carthaginians. It's also suggested that this is Scipio's likeness, but I think that is extremely unlikely. Here's mine, the only ancient eBay purchase I've ever made. There are silver issues that show the same transformation.

    Carthago Novo Scipio AE eBay.jpg
     
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have one of those also! L'audace of Scipio to be the first Roman with his living likeness on a coin! Pretty rough example... IF it is him...
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  15. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    @Alegandron that quadrigatus is just awesome (and on my wish list for decades). What other posted is very interesting too, making this thread valuable

    Here's a coin I consider as pivotal in the roman coinage, being the first silver issue of the Roman republic

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    Republic, Didrachm Rome mint c. 269-266 BC
    No legend, Diademed head of young Hercules right, with club and lion's skin over shoulder
    ROMANO, She wolf right, suckling Romulus and Remus
    7.29 gr
    Ref : RCV # 24, RSC # 8

    Q
     
  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @Cucumbor : Cuke, that is a FANTASTIC didrachm! That has been on my hit list too! Nice nice features, slight wear...I covet! Well done!
     
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