Is the Mint extending the Statehood Quarters?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Lemmyk, May 29, 2007.

  1. CoinOKC

    CoinOKC Don't Drink The Kool-Aid

    Ditto!

    Unfortunately, I also think the Prez Dollar program is proving itself to be a failure and we've got 10 (or more) years before it plays out.
     
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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I have nothing against DC having a quarter, but not a STATE quarter. DC is NOT a state. And tacking them on to the state quarter program is actually an insult to the territories. Wait a year of two and give the territories their own program. Don't make them the poor sister (ME too!, Me Too!) of the state program.
     
  4. Vercingetorix

    Vercingetorix Member

    seems like you're getting caught up in semantics to me -- a distinction without any difference. there's clearly something "different" about DC than, say, american samoa. it's tough to say just what that "different" is, but most americans wouldn't notice the difference if they drove across the maryland (or virginia) border into DC, but they'd certainly notice if they were plopped down in san juan, or the USVI, or guam. i'd suggest that what's different is that DC is basically no different than the rest of the lower 48, while the territories really are unlike the rest of the country.

    and btw, if you really want to be a stickler about it, pennsylvania, kentucky, mass., virgina -- none of these Commonwealths should have gotten a quarter. not states. but your sarcasm was cute.

    nevertheless, i'm pretty much on board with everyone that wants to see the program end. boring idea, and the coins are examples of why art by committee usually isn't a good idea.

    V.
     
  5. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Always Right

    Some would think perhaps quarter of Iraq might be possible - I not think designs of what happens there everyday good thing for coins though.:mad:
     
  6. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    v - surely you can't be THAT short sighted. DC is not in the state quarter program because it is not a state. Hard for you to accept, I'm sure but that's what it boils down to. Nice try though. Yes, DC does look like the other states but that isn't enough to get a quarter. Does DC have a Governor? Does DC have representation in the House or Senate, and no ..shadows don't coun't. Does DC have a star on the American flag? Heck, there was a time when the district couldn't even manage it's own money. They have to beg Congress for appropriations.

    I work in DC and I love it but I'm not simple minded enough to think that it deserve a quarter. I mean really?
     
  7. Vercingetorix

    Vercingetorix Member

    your response made amply clear how you feel, but wasn't very cogent. short-sighted -- how so? you may think i'm in the wrong, but i don't think you meant to say short-sighted. that implies that i don't foresee the consequences of my actions. if that is what you're trying to say, you didn't explain how.

    also, i resent the implication that i'm simple-minded, which is hardly the case. you can say you disagree without resorting to ad hominem attacks. it's not good form.

    DC still isn't good with its money, though if that's a point of qualification, new jersey's quarter should be recalled and destroyed, as the state went bankrupt last year. but since you live in the area you must know that the city's financial woes aren't solely from being run by a bunch of yahoos -- tax revenue is low due to the feds sitting on choice land and not paying taxes, the district isn't permitted to charge an occupational privilege tax, etc. so yes, the district gets lots of federal money every year. if you want a functioning capital city, that's the price you pay. so what?

    and for those of you not from the area, the reason some folks in DC want a quarter is this: the residents of the district have no representation in our congress, other than a non-voting delegate to the house. that may have made sense 200 years ago (the reason being that in the days before broadband and the united shuttle, the states neighboring the capital might be thought to have an unfair ability to influence goings-on in the capital), but it really no longer does, except that the city is heavily democratic, and any step to grant the district full voting rights (in the form of statehood or otherwise) is fraught with political calculations. so the quarter is seen as a step in the direction of full enfranchisement. it's decidely not just a "me, too" move.

    so there you go. to be frank, i don't like the state quarters. they're pretty ugly. to me, it has more to do with being treated like a full-fledged american, that's all. since i pay my taxes, i'd like to be able to vote for a representative and a senator, but i understand that the question of DC statehood isn't simple (personally, i'd rather see the city become part of maryland). the only reason i jumped in this thread was because someone lumped us in with guam and the like, and it got my irish up. you may think the district shouldn't get a quarter -- fair enough, you're not the only one. maybe you think it should. great. maybe you think we should go back to pretty coins with lady liberty wearing a phyrgian cap instead of some more ugly state birds. even better.

    V.
     
  8. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    I would love to see DC annexed by Maryland.
    We all know Virginia doesn't want the poverty, drugs, murder rate and financial burden.
    Let it effect Maryland's tax base.

    Thank you for the informative post. It was ...entertaining.
     
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