Should "In God We Trust" be removed from US Coins & Currency?

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  1. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    OK, my "definition" might be wrong. Wolfs and coyotes are both in the dog family. Let me know when you find them mating with an ape or a horse to produce something new.
     
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  3. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    We should try to keep this to coins...
     
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  4. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    I think that ship sailed. ;)
     
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  5. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I wonder if my 1912 $2 1/2 Indian will ever turn into a 1911-D $2 1/2? I mean, it's possible. As long as God doesn't get involved
     
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  6. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    :oops:
     
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  7. WingedLiberty

    WingedLiberty Well-Known Member

    Using that argument, where did god come from? who created god? I am not sure that "magic" is a good explanation for anything.

    Anyway if there was a god, how did we end up with the susan b anthony dollar? Lol

    Back to the topic, imho, separation of church and state requires removal of that religious motto from coinage and printed bills.
     
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  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    This is like a bad game of musical chairs, sooner or later someone will post something over the line, as many are balancing precariously on the line, so they will be holding the infraction points or worse. Don't let it be you, you can't win this argument anyway.
     
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  9. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Uh:

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  10. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    I'd like my 1910-S $5 to morph into a 1909-O.
     
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  11. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    Boy, it takes a scintillating subject like this one to get me to log in these days.

    The evidence for evolution is overwhelming, agreed to by some 99% of scientists, and the fundamentalist argument that evidence doesn't exist of one separate species mating with another is a moot and tiresome one—as tiresome as the argument that, if man evolved from apes, we'd see no apes today. Both examples reveal a silly understanding of evolutionary theory.

    Besides, one simply has to look at the Noah story itself to realize how ridiculous it is: an omniscient, omnipotent God suddenly realizes he's done a poor job with his Creation and therefore decides to wipe it out—all the good folks, too—and start with a clean slate. That's OT morality for you.
     
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  12. steve63

    steve63 Active Member

    The atheistic communist regimes of the 20th century killed far more people than any religious crusade ever did. Stalin alone killed tens of millions of his own people in his endeavor to remove God and religion from Soviet culture.

    Sure, men have killed men in the name of religion. But many more have been killed in the name of eliminating religion. Bottom line: Men will kill other men over anything if they believe in it strong enough and think it's their job to make everyone else believe it too. That's true of religion as well as atheism.
     
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  13. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    Ideas of morality—that good actions benefit human society and bad actions hinder it—have been around for thousands of years before the Old Testament. There is a version of the Golden Rule in China that predates Biblical writings, again, by thousands of years.
     
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  14. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    The problem with this argument is that atheistic regimes never killed anyone in the name of their atheism. And besides, Hitler was conveniently Catholic when it suited his needs.
     
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  15. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    Yet you've just laid out your argument.
     
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  16. steve63

    steve63 Active Member

    They did it in the name of their BELIEF system (ie communism). Atheism is an integral part of Communism/Marxism. Which proves my point that people will kill other people over any belief system where they feel it's their job to impose it on others, whether that belief system includes God or rejects God. To blame religion for war per se is ridiculous. If that's true then the atheistic regimes of the last 100 years should have turned into peaceful utopias but they did not, they turned into violent oppressive nightmares and self destructed.
     
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  17. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    THIS RIGHT HERE....SO MUCH THIS RIGHT HERE!
     
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  18. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    I agree with you largely and we both know war is complex.

    I mean I know war is complex hypothetically. I've never started one.
     
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  19. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Claiming something for propaganda purposes doesn't mean he actually was. He didn't believe in God.
     
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  20. steve63

    steve63 Active Member

    Yeah, it's complex. Which is why I think it's a dumb idea to remove the motto. The fact is this..regardless of how anyone feels about religion, it's simply an historical fact that religion has played a pivotal role in American history. For that reason alone the motto should stay...it's part of our history and culture even if the religious sentiments behind it are not believed by all.
     
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  21. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    You're right. My point is the slipperiness of it all. Think of how many communist party members went back to their Russian Orthodox roots once their system was disbanded.
     
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