Question about older PCGS holders

Stability of the coin is an interesting point. I'll have to look into that a bit more.

I remember reading accounts of people seeing Morgans in the same Mint bag, where some developed crazy milk spots, carbon spots, toning, etc., whereas others looked spotless as if they were minted yesterday.

Clear prongs on the NGC slabs is a good point - they should make an upgrade to that. Maybe even step it up a bit by adding a rim window so that we can actually enjoy edge inscriptions, different security reeds, etc.

And, I just bought the first PCGS slabbed Silver Eagle.

 

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@iPen , IMO, good choice on the ASE. Based on the pics, I liked the first one better. The second looked to have a thumb print on the obverse from noon to 2.

I agree with the comments about OGH. Just buy the coin, not the "hype". Not every OGH is conservatively graded and many that were have been submitted for re-grade.

 

Many ogh coins at shows are in them cause they won't upgrade . Others have been in old collections for years and are fresh. These are coins I love to buy. Personally I love the look of the green label non rattler pcgs

 

Thanks - it arrived today! MS-69 sounds correct.

I see some cameo loss on the reverse shield and Lady Liberty's chest.

The scratch on the reverse to the left of the stars is on the plastic.

The weird haze on the obverse above "IN GOD WE TRUST" is on the slab, I believe.


And, does anyone know what this is that I'm describing below?

There are these strange short skid marks on the fields, as shown in the first and third pics right next to and around the letter "Y" of "LIBERTY" on the obverse. It's not on the slab, I checked with my loupe - it's more intense on the edges of the coin than closer towards the center of the coin.

It's a bit hard to tell from my photos, and doubly hard to take the photo since it's a deeply mirrored field, but I can try and take more. But, it looks like the short lines are 2mm in length and seem to be radiating from the center. Are they short lines caused by die imperfections?

 

It is more than just grading standards which are actually both harder and lighter now days. Back in the OGH days you could have a special coin that was net graded because there were no Gen holders. I would be curious about a MS60 penny falling into that category esp a 56. Also many side standards like DMPL and cam will still being worked through and settled on at higher levels than practiced back then. Of note AT and Putty were not major issues so many coins made it through.

OGHs also mean that they sat on the side lines through most of what will go down as the most invasive coin doctoring periord.

OGHs mean that it hasn't recently been plastic shopped

OGHs mean that the coin isn't freshly treated which can lead to being unstable

OGH mean that in the early days of grading someone thought the coin was was special enough to go through the expense and hassle out of all the raw coins back then to submit

Also the rattler and Early OGH era coincides with the massive brake up of the great silver bag hoards and many of them are straight from the mint to the bag to the slab and have a look rare now days for coins.


To your actual question, your 56 flyer is worth the most it can possible be worth (assuming no upgrade) in its older plastic with a CAC sticker. Think winter's multiple layers of demand