1960 close AM?

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  1. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    It looks close because all the devices look wide. Check the motto, looks like a doubled die.
     
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  4. Sheila Ruley

    Sheila Ruley The short blonde girl

    20160129_201322-1.jpg 20160129_201235-1.jpg Here is the FG and the date.
     
  5. Sheila Ruley

    Sheila Ruley The short blonde girl

    20160130_004317-1.jpg Here is the word GOD.
     
  6. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    I patiently await the doubled die gods to weigh in on this.
     
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  7. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Pretty sure that was a 1996 and not a 1995.
     
  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Your wrong again .......

    In The News ...1995 Wide AM Rev Cent Appears AlteredText by Ken Potter
    Images by Chuck Daughtrey



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    Here we see the rotational alignment that this reverse has as compared to the obverse.

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    This Wide AM is of a type showing diagnostics appropriate to the 1980s.

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    Here you can clearly see the seam where the reverse was fit into the obverse shell.


    February 04, 2009 (Updated April 27, 2009) -- Privately, many hobby observers knew it was just a matter of time before Lincoln cents altered to bear different reverse design styles appeared in circulation. One such suspect coin appeared on on the www.coincommunity.com website late yesterday evening. The poster showed images of a 1995 Lincoln cent that bore a Wide AM reverse along with a widely rotated reverse. If it was a legitimate coin, it would have represented a new variety!
    However, the problem is that the coin exhibits the diagnostic seam between field of the coin and the rim that shows on many "novelty coins" that have been created by lathing the inside of one coin out into a shell and lathing another coin to reduce its thickness and circumference to a size to fit neatly but snuggly into the shell.
    The process is most exacting and difficult to detect unless one knows where to look and is often used to create double headed or double tailed novelty coins, which are sold by novelty outlets and magic shops.
    The process is also used to create dual-denomination or dual-country coins where a Kennedy half dollar (for example) might have what appears to be a normal reverse (though most often widely rotated out of proper position with the obverse) but when held in ones forefingers and thumb and jolted against one's knee results in the inlaid section of the coin falling out and revealing a large Mexican 20 Centavos or a British Large penny (of the eras when these coins were copper and of about the size of a Kennedy half dollar) being on the flip side of the reverse inlay. In fact, over the years whenever somebody at a show hands me a Kennedy half dollar with a rotated reverse, the first thing I do look for the seam and if present, jolt the reverse out of the shell as described above and then like magic hand the bedazzled owner back his coin in two pieces, one showing the Kennedy obverse and the other the foreign coin that was hidden within. Obviously, when the owner fits the two parts of the coin back together it is most often done without regard to the obverse/reverse orientation resulting in the reverse appearing to be rotated out of proper position. In spite of being made of two pieces, (a obverse shell and a reverse inlay), these concoctions normally fit together rather snugly and often take several tries to jolt apart.
    In recent years Lincoln cents with Roosevelt dime reverses have also been reported but none have been sent for exam allowing me to deduce if they were made in the same manner but I have suspected that at least some were.
    Interestingly, the 1995 cent on the coincommunity.com website not only exhibits a rotated die, (suggesting that it might be one of these dual-denomination concoctions), but a Wide AM reverse design style that hasn't been used by the Mints since the 1980s.
    Chuck Daughtrey of coppercoins.com, who was one of the posters on the forum said: "The reverse design on this coin is not the typical Wide-AM as was used on proofs that year ... like all of the other mismatched reverse coins, which are of the proof design for that year. This design most closely matches the design abandoned after 1985. The shape of the letters is not right for any coin minted during the 1990s. Given the seam, the rotation, the very incorrect design, and the fact that this is the only example known, I am relatively certain this one was manufactured from two separate coins."
    So what insiders have been fearing might happen for years, appears to have finally come true! See the suspect coin here: http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=42000
    Updated: April 27, 2009 -- At this point in time both Chuck Daughtrey and I have examined the coin and confirmed that it is an alteration made from two different coins joined together as described above.
     
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  9. Rick Stachowski

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  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Here's the song the Parrot is singing
     
  11. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Rick, looks like we were both correct in some aspect, as there was a supposed 1996 Wide-AM found by Billy Crawford that I think was also determined to be fake. I just got Potter and Crawford switched up. :)
    http://www.lincolncentresource.com/Featured/1996WideAM.html
     
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