Guess the 65

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Sean5150, Jan 28, 2016.

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Which one is the 65

  1. coin 1

    25.0%
  2. coin 2

    29.2%
  3. coin 3

    45.8%
  1. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    I thought I'd change it up a bit, and instead of guess the grade, I'd do a guess the 65. One of the three coins I posted is a 65 (according to NGC), pick which one. IMG_2951.JPG IMG_2952.JPG IMG_2953.JPG IMG_2954.JPG IMG_2955.JPG IMG_2956.JPG
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Where is none of the above? I can't believe any of them graded a 65.
     
  4. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Cool idea for a thread, I'll say coin #2

    Edit: if these were from any other mint I'd say none of the above
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    #3.

    what do I win?
     
  6. EdGs

    EdGs Active Member

    Put me down for #3 also
     
  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Based off those pictures it would have to be 1 or 3. My swag is 1 but as mentioned from those pictures I do not see a 65. BUT it could just be because of the pictures.
     
  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I'm 2 or 3 and will go with: 3
     
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    :oops::bigtears::arghh: I blew it. Voted #3 due to luster. WRONG! Hair flat + too many hits on obverse.

    #1 has fewest marks but stained.

    #2 best eye appeal to me; but planchet flaws face and minor hits rev (not especialiy important). This is the coin I would pick for my collection as I like the flaws - they tell a story about minting process. BUT

    If allowed to change my position/poll answer: TPGS picked #1 as the MS-65.

    Just showing my ignorance with this post :confused:
     
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I voted for #2 because the roller marks shouldn't affect the grade.

    FWIW, it looks like both 84-CC's came from the same pair of dies, but the second one was struck earlier than the first one.

    Chris
     
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  13. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    #3 is the only one that possibly has that "65" look IMHO.
     
  14. thejaxcollector

    thejaxcollector Active Member

  15. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

  16. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Call me #1 I think someone had dirty fingers and grabbed that case. Most what I see looks to be on the plastic.
     
  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Nope, the color and shape of the stains is typical.
     
  18. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    Alright, I couldn't wait any more. What's even crazier is I sent in both 84s to be VAM 2 attributed. I would send it back, but how much money can you throw away? My personal opinion is the 65 cutoff is very difficult to guess. But I think they got it wrong with these coins. Coin 1 doesn't photograph well, but the surfaces are smooth. Coin 2 looks just as good. Coin 3 IMO was a 64+. So is it inconsistency, or are there characteristics I'm just not taking into account? But the VAM 2 thing ticked me off. I sent in three 84s, so it's possible either I or they didn't note the right one to look at, but that VAM is so easy to spot wouldn't they just say "Oh he meant this one"? (Don't ask me why I would even waste money on attribution, I just think it's cool)

    The photos I take tend to show the coin in the most negative light. But I take them the same way every time, so it shouldn't be a factor.
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  19. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    For me the best Reverse was #3 but the Obverse Photo to me had the worse Eye Appeal.
    #1 Seemed the best of all Choices unless as @Insider says those Stains are on the coin and not the plastic.
     
  20. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    Stain was on the coin. I like to use scratch x on the holders before I send them in, so the plastic is pretty clean. Maybe the stains held it back. I think it's the hairlines on the forehead, I was actually worried it would get a detail grade.

    I think #2 was the best looking one, and it got the lowest grade. I have some learning to do.
     
  21. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Me too :eggface: but GTG posts are helpful. IMO the luster pulled #3 into 65 for them; yet the lack of hair should have dropped coin to 64 something. Congrats to all the winners!
     
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