1989 Penny DDO LIBERTY & Date

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  1. Christina Gaffney

    Christina Gaffney New Member

    DD LIBE
    DD Date
    And the Mint Mark D, is odd, I'm not sure it translates in the photo. 20160127_020944.jpg
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    No, not a DDO
     
  4. Christina Gaffney

    Christina Gaffney New Member

    I'm new, can you tell me why not? The LIBE, to me, shows very clear signs of double die.
     
  5. Jdiablo30

    Jdiablo30 Well-Known Member

    It would help if the image was rotated 90 degrees to the right. I see some MAJOR doubling in the LIB. If that is machine doubling it is very severe. Please post a upright picture.
     
  6. Christina Gaffney

    Christina Gaffney New Member

    Here you go.
     

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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    There are a few different types of doubling on coins. A double die (DD) is and looks entirely different for Machine (MD) or Hub doubling. Do a little research and you'll discover the differences. Yours looks to be MD, neat but common. :)
     
  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Not a Doubled Die
    It's DDD - Die Deterioration Doubling. After a Die is used so many times to make the image it deteriorates. Not a True Doubled Die
    I want to share this webpage with you - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubled

    Mint Mark is also Deterioration
     
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  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Also.. the correct term is Doubled Die not Double. Huge difference
    quote "Note that the proper terminology for this occurrence includes the letter 'd' at the end of the first word, hence "doubled die". The term "double die" without the first word ending in 'd' is not proper numismatic terminology." closed quote
     
  10. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Paddy is correct in what he stated above.
     
  11. Christina Gaffney

    Christina Gaffney New Member

    I appreciate your input and correction. My apologies. I'm new to this hobby and hope to become proficient, and lucky!
     
  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  13. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

  14. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    Incuse Die Deterioration doubling. Very common in 1992 Lincoln cents
     
  15. anderspud

    anderspud Active Member

    The first photo of Abe looking down has the LI and 89 looking doubled. But in the third photo with Abe upright the 89 looks fine. Then the fourth photo of a sliver clearly shows a mechanical doubling for LIBE. Cameras don't lie but they can sure twist the truth.
     
  16. Derry

    Derry Member

    I've yet to find a decently struck 88-D or 89-D. Most have a funky surface, so the master dies must be the problem. I've found that many of them have die deterioration doubling, especially on the date and liberty.
     
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