1899 O Morgan Vam Help

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  1. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    I picked this coin up off of ebay Its an old ANACS photo cert and I thought I got a fair deal of it. It looked like a nice coin. I was surprised when I received it with all of the die cracks on the reverse. I haven't seen Morgans with die cracks. I'm a Peace Dollar guy and am use to the 1922 and 1923 have die cracks all over but this is a learning experience for me. I have tried to take picks but its hard with the photo cert getting in the way and trying to take a close up sucks with now micro scope so I tried to take photos through my loop. I couldn't get pics of all of them and some of them are light they must be an early state. I went to vam world and I think its a 34 but with a R6 I doubt I am looking at it right. So when do dies cracks become a VAM? I'll post the pics that I have an let you all ask questions and give advice. If it is a better VAM should I send it in to ANACS and let them attribute it? I'm not sure what to do as it is in an older photo cert .

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  3. cpm9ball

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    @Tater

    It takes 130+ tons of pressure to produce these cartwheels, so die cracks are very common. For that reason, die cracks don't warrant the assignment of a VAM. FWIW, I used to have an 1899O that had a die crack around the entire perimeter of the reverse.

    Chris
     
  4. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    While thick die breaks are listable in the VAM listings, die cracks like these are quite common. I don't see die breaks strong enough to be listed as a feature on a specific VAM. The VAM number would be determined most likely by the date position and possible repunching along with the mint mark position and possible repunching.
     
  5. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    Vam 34 has a high tilted left mint mark I kind of see it but I'm a rookie.
     
  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    VAM-25. Die cracks are diagnostic.
     
  7. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    yes, VAM-25, that die crack off the E in STATES is quite unique.
     
  8. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    Is it worth sending in to anacs to have it attributed if it is a vam 25?
     
  9. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    For me, the old photo-cert adds more potential value than a new holder with VAM-25 on the label would.
     
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