die clash of Lincoln's nose?

the first pic i posted is a double clash, the dies were out of adjustment to cause the first clash which caused them to become even more out of adjustment before they clashed a second time...

 

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Because it's an upside down reverse image

 

I understand that it should be upside down, but the lettering shouldn't be reversed. How many times have we told people that their so-called clash was PMD because the lettering was backwards?

Chris

 

A righteous and normally-aligned chin clash on a Lincoln is located in the third bay of the Memorial from the right, and the point of the chin is upside-down pointing towards 3:00 on the reverse. The feature being discussed here rather looks like a clash, but there's nothing on the Lincoln obverse to cause that artifact in that location.

 

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Sorry, guys! I'm just having a bad day.

Chris

 

the OP's coin is a clash of the area the red arrow points to in pic below...

 

Nice! Thank you. That works.

 

Thanks Paddy , as I got it wrong last night taking 2 cents and trying to figure out where the nose would hit . Guess I got mixed up trying to figure the directions of the dies as they are cut . This is now bookmarked for future reference .

 

Jason Cuvelier over at Mad Die Clashes has created an extensive set of clash overlays:

http://www.maddieclashes.com/denominational-overlays/

 

This is a new area for me one I'd like to learn , thanks this is also bookmarked . It sure beats trying to figure out how the dies would hit with 2 regular coins . Great site .

 

It sure beat the heck out of me having to create them.

 

Sheila: I see you are doing very well including an eye loupe with your camera. And I can see that it does look like Abe's nose sniffing in the memorial columns, but Chris is right, Abe's coin nose is on the wrong side to show up the column where you see an image. And since the nose in the die would be sunken, it is unlikely to cause any effect.

 

What could it be? Is it a die clash at all?

 

Yes, and ken454 above showed you the specific obverse feature which created it.

 

yes it is a clash, see post #26, your coins clash event shows that little field area at the back of Lincolns neck between his hair and collar as i stated in post #11 and posted 2 pics of coins i found showing the same clash...

 

for more info on clashes http://www.maddieclashes.com/illustrated-glossary-of-relevant-terms/

 

I thought so. Thanks.

 

Are we looking at this correctly? When there is a clash disc, only direct contact between them are the fields of these two discs. Damage could occur on the edges of a field, but not in the centers of images. Copies of Abe's nose should not appear anywhere on the OBS coin. The situation of the columns of the memorial could show damage since the narrow spaces between columns have slim pieces of "field".

 

Those narrow spaces at field level are where the clash is found on this coin. Eminently possible, when you consider it's very likely the rest of the clashing was polished away and they just couldn't correctly treat such a small area on the die.

 

have you ever seen memorial cent clashes? the spaces between the columns is the most common area of clash events and as SD stated, because of the small areas, the harder to polish away...