die clash of Lincoln's nose?

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  1. Sheila Ruley

    Sheila Ruley The short blonde girl

    20160119_010749.jpg 20160119_010650.jpg 20160119_010648.jpg 20160119_010601_HDR.jpg 20160119_010539_HDR.jpg It's that a die clash of Lincoln's nose in the Lincoln Memorial on the middle left?
     
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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'm not sure it's a clash Sheila as I think Lincolns nose would of hit the other side of the die . Meaning the right side of the Memorial , I'm taking yours is more on the left side of the coin .
     
  4. Sheila Ruley

    Sheila Ruley The short blonde girl

    Yes. I wondered about that too. You can see it in the picture in the reverse side even without the up close picture.
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I don't think it would be. It would show upside down if it were a clash.
    See this overlay and see where the nose clash would truly occur. And use it for future reference! ;)
    Small%20Cent%20-%20Lincoln%20Memorial%20-%20Overlay%20Combined.jpg
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    And here it is the overlay for the Wheat Cent -
    Small%20Cent%20-%20Lincoln%20Wheat%20-%20Overlay%20Combined.jpg
     
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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

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  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    It could be his chin....
     
  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Here's a 67 I own with the clashed chin ... A001 - 20150427_175720 (2).jpg
     
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    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

  11. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    And on the obverse, there appears to be a finger pointing at Abe's nose. A column from the memorial also slightly rotated.
     
  12. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    yes it is a clash, FYI, clashes are created by the FIELDS of the opposite die, yours was created by the field area between his neck and collar...

    1983-clash.jpg 1998-clash.jpg
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Paddy, are you sure that both of your Lincoln Memorial Cent overlays are correct? Why does Lincoln face the right side of the Memorial in one image and the left side of the Memorial in the other image? Am I getting daft in my old age?

    Chris
     
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  14. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    your coin looks to have an event at the top of the 8th and 9th bays as well, its a clash of the field area just below Lincolns beard....
     
  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    How do you figure that? The "Y" of LIBERTY would be inverted between the 2nd & 3rd columns from the left. (I have more than 200 of the "Y" clash from a 1980 Mint bag.) The neck & collar area should be to the right of the "Y" clash.

    Chris
     
  16. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    they look the same to me only 1 is upside down, they both face towards "FG"
     
  17. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    correct, the "Y" would be in 2nd bay and neck area in 4th bay as it is..
     
  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    How do you figure that? The "Y" of LIBERTY would be inverted between the 2nd & 3rd columns from the left. (I have more than 200 of the "Y" clash from a 1980 Mint bag.) The neck & collar area should be to the right of the "Y" clash.

    Chris


    Look again, please? If you rotated the left-hand image 180 degrees, so that the Memorial is upright, the designer's initials would be on the left side of the Memorial. ONE CENT, E PLURIBUS UNUM and UNITED STATES OF AMERICA should begin from the left end of the Memorial, not the right end.

    Chris
     
  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Am I just hallucinating? The "neck & collar" area you claim to be clashed begins on a diagonal in the 2nd bay and ends in the 4th bay.

    Chris
     
  20. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    ok, the 1st (left) overlay is of the obverse of the coin showing where the clash from reverse die would be, the 2nd (right) overlay is the reverse of the coin showing where the clash of the obverse die would be,,,http://www.maddieclashes.com/one-cent-overlays/
     
  21. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    actually it usually starts at top of second or third bay and ends at bottom of 4th bay, depending on how much out of adjustment the dies are from clashing..
     
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