Excellent Grading Skills

By the same token, that knowledge qualifies you to shop online with greater confidence than a less-experienced collector.

 

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Superb thread , very insightful , was a pleasure to read and also very nice coins .
For some reason had this scenario from the the film " The eight of eighth" running round in my head with you all locked in the cabin taking pot shots..
Wrong answer gets it .. Lol.
Welsh man very amused , brightened up a cold wet miserable day . Thank you all

 

Well, I am surprised. The general consensus is that both of these coins, while wildly opposite in strike detail, appearance and carbon spots, is in fact the same grade.

I understand EDS/LDS, I just haven't ever understood why. I think in about 100% of cases, we would prefer the sharper struck version versus a mushy strike.

 

I don't disagree with the direction of your sentiment, just the magnitude. The coin we're looking at has, by my count, 10 carbon spots (7 obv, 3 rev). Of those, only the one near LIBERTY has any impact whatsoever, and that minor. The only major spot is the larger one on the reverse near the C in CENTS, and that one definitely detracts from eye appeal more than the one near LIBERTY.

I almost feel as though you're trying to hold this coin up to an MS70 standard when it comes to carbon spots. You seem to be failing to keep in mind that you're looking at a blown-up image of a 19mm coin. I'd estimate the magnification on my screen to be 20-25x. Without magnification, half of the carbon spots would likely be completely invisible (including the small one on the reverse near the C, the one between the base of the wheat stalks at 6:00, one near the obverse rim at 8:00, one on the edge of the jacket at 5:00, and the tiny one in front of Lincoln's nose).

None of the visible spots are in prime focal areas, the worst being the larger one beneath the B in LIBERTY and the larger one to the right of the C in CENTS.

Is there anything so far you disagree with?

 

Absolutely lovely coin, quick question...Halo luster doesn't give a cartwheel effect?

 

PS You must know that you are one of my favorite posters here because of the way you express your opinions and their educational content!

 

It still has cartwheel luster, but it's more spread-out and less defined....and somewhat overwhelmed by the halo luster. The coin I posted has absolutely blazing luster, but it looks flat in pictures.

On another note, I bought this from a dealer that I've dealt with for many years. He's been dealing coins for 40+ years and this is what he wrote on the 2x2:

 

When are you going to send in that 38-S?

 

Nah, we're more like the 'Hateful Eight' in deese parts.......

 

Well, that's good to know. I come to these forums primarily to learn, occasionally to teach and encourage.

I think we have to agree to disagree on everything else this thread, lol.

 

Probably never, I like 'em raw. The reverse rocks too, again, I cannot capture the luster with my camera, it's too bright and saturates my cheap CCD. I just tried to get a reasonable, representation picture using angled shots.

 

I'm almost as green with envy as that green toning. : - )

 

There's plenty of fish in the sea. I just takes patience to hook one.