Any opinions on which ones will CAC and which won't? I am mailing them (12 coins total) tomorrow, and will post results in a couple weeks when they are done.
I could see some of them getting it if the grades weren't pretty accurate and were und undergraded. With respect, I do not think any will CAC. Grades look like they are right were they need to be. Very nice coins. I like that Oregon Half the most.
I think the following are no brainers for a green bean. 1860-O Seated Half 1957 Washington Quarter 1903 IHC 1928 Oregon Commem 1937 Buffalo Nickel I don't know much about grading early half dollars but I see no reason why the 1860-O Seated Half wouldn't get a gold sticker. That coin looks higher than AU50 to my eye.
Personally I think the 2 cent is a MS65 instead of 63. And the 1808 half has some luster and I think it's much better than a XF40. There are a couple I think won't CAC that belong to a friend of mine, but he wanted to send em in anyway. The 1903 indian is too spotty to CAC and the 1827 bust half has a "hen peck" in the "C" of "50C."
The 1860-O, I agree with you. I think the excellent strike and original surfaces are a green sticker at the very least, and possibly a gold. Honestly the detail is better than AU50 but the luster is very subdued due to the toning.
Well, before I sent these in I sold the 1808 half dollar and sent the 1898 Proof Indian Cent in for reholder, so I only sent 10 coins in. Here are the results. 6 out of 10 CAC'd green stickered, no golds. 1. 1860-O Seated Half AU50... CAC 2. 1957 Washington 25c MS67... CAC 3. 1942-D Walking Liberty MS63... failed 4. 1903 Indian Cent MS65 RB... failed 5. 1928 Oregon Commem MS66+... CAC 6. 1937 Capped Bust Half AU50... failed 7. 1817 Capped Bust Half VF30... CAC 8. 1937 Buffalo Nickel MS66... CAC 9. 1865 2-Cent Piece MS63... CAC 10. 1827 Capped Bust Half AU53... failed
Wish I'd seen this before the results. I disagree with only the Walker on that list (and I disagree strongly); strike quality and color keep that thing below MS65, nothing else. There are very few physical marks on that coin and I'd scarf it for 63 money every day of the week. The 1860-O Half probably merits a Gold bean IMO; I'd be hard-pressed to go below AU53 for it and wouldn't argue AU55. They probably based their opinion on the fact that it's a titanic strike with visible wear, and I can see that. Frankly, I'd go over market for that coin regardless of grade. It's a standout. Kinda surprised the Oregon Trail Beaned at 66+. Think it arrived there as an "ugly 67." The 2C has verdigris (maybe PVC) on the scroll at top right of the shield; I'd be seriously considering cracking that puppy to arrest it. That one had me thinking about the CAC sticker as well, but it's a Slider to me and if they chose it for Mint State, 63 isn't ridiculous. It really bothers me that TPG's will encapsulate coins with active degradation going on. I don't think either the 1808 or 1898 would have Beaned, and I suspect you agreed which is why you did what you did with them. The 1808 is probably close, but the gouge on the IHC's neck should probably keep it below PR65.
Nice to see the results. I wonder if cac will ever start taking new members so I can submit directly. What's up.with that?!
Eye appeal has nothing to do with cac sticker. The only two I would have expected to fail is the IHC and the 42 walker - based off the pictures. The walker because of the lack of luster and what almost looks like rub on a couple of high spots. The 1903 IHC simply because of the well placed hits and the way the luster looks - that could just be because of the big old pictures. Having said that - still a nice batch of coins. Personally the one I like the best failed - the 1837 half.
Can't say I walk in their shoes, but I would expect eye appeal to carry more weight with CAC, not less, especially in the grade ranges where they operate. They're basically deciding whether or not the coin is worth good-for-grade money, they make no bones about that, and eye appeal factors heavily into whether or not you the check writer thinks a coin is worth buying.
Six out of 10 is not bad. A good case study to decide whether to send something to CAC. Thanks for sharing your adventure!
I completely agree and suspect that to be the case as well. In my experience with them no matter how sound technically something is if the eye appeal isn't there or it has one of the looks they don't like it won't bean. I once had a plus graded coin not bean with them, I suspect it was a plus and not the next grade up from lacking eye appeal but technically it should have been a slam dunk for a sticker.
The 1837 half is a R.5, which is awesome. It's got nice strike and toning, but the luster wasn't really there.
Interested in what they say about the Rhode Island Commem. Keep us posted. What does CBD stand for? There's a Coffee by Design up by me and I see your caffeine fix tag. Are you a coffee lover too?