I'm looking for a bit of help to try and ID an undertype on one of my bank of England dollars so anyone with knowledge in the area could be of help. This is it the way the host coin would have been, you're able to see Charles's chest and part of the laureate in the border On this picture, it leads me to believe it could be a Guatemala issue due to the "cud" next to the walled crown that need not be there, it has me thinking because on the host coin the pillar would have been close to the legend which is the N of HISPAN. Any advice muchly appreciated. Thanks, Mark.
Mark, Cool coin with some interesting history no doubt. I'm not an expert but I do wonder if the "P" between "DEI" and "GRATIA" on the obverse might be be from "HISPAN" on the host coin.
I think it is, Here's some pics taken with my USB microscope. This is the cud I was talking about, it's not part of the crown. This is IND -REX I can't make my mind up if this is part of the mintmark !
Yes.. Silver Spanish American 8 Real I want to share this website with you - http://collections.museumvictoria.com.au/items/63262 quote - "Overstruck Spanish American 8 Real coin issued by the Bank of England with a value of 5 shillings to supplement a deficiency in British silver coins" closed quote I'm no expert.. Google and Bing are my friends!
I'm googling results too. A Guatemala is the nearest I've ever gotten. It's Definately a bust type because you can make out remnants of Charles's bust under George's I think the part next to the crown on the BoE design is the bottom right of the pillar and the dot from the host.. What's your opinion ?
Interesting. Leaving to work now but I will keep it in mind. I wonder why back then they used the letter V instead of a U in certain words.. such as VNUM instead of UNUM and VLTRA instead of ULTRA on the right post..
I'm not sure the Latin alphabet had a U, I'm sure I've heard an explanation for it before but I've forgotten ha ! Thanks
I've taken another look under my x40 loupe and I think t actually could be a Mexico City. To me, that's the top left hand side of an M, what's throwing me is that it seems to be more like a figure 8 above it as opposed to an O
Paddyman, The Romans did not use the letter U in their alphabet even though they made the U sound we know today in spoken language. Consequently, later Europeans kept the V when using Latin inscriptions. I think that an early modern use of U would be in U.S. coinage with E PLURIBUS UNUM...
Indeed I have two Halfpennies of George II they're different varieties, one is GEORGVIS The other is GEORGIUS. So some time around the 1740/50's I would say the change took place.
