Got Crab? - Akragas Crab & Eagle Tetradrachm - Yum

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  1. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Here’s a big chunky crab tetradrachm that recently crawled into my collection. :) Akragas Crab Collage 1.jpg
    SICILY, Akragas.
    AR Tetradrachm.
    472-420 B.C.


    16.88 grams, 25 mm
    Obv: Crab as viewed from top
    Rev: Eagle standing left with city name
    AKRA(C)-ANTOS (retrograde N)
    Grade: aVF or nearly so including nice
    centering, ancient fabric & cabinet tone
    Other: Sear #741 pg 78. SNG.Cop.41,
    BMC 37 From Classical Ancient Coins 1/16


    The island of Sicily is located off the SW coast of modern day Italy. How about we all post some coins from Sicily? I’ll go first:
    Map and Tets.jpg
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Awesome, would love of those in time.
     
  4. coincollector197

    coincollector197 ANA Platinum member since 12/9/15

    How much did the crab cost you?
     
  5. coincollector197

    coincollector197 ANA Platinum member since 12/9/15

    $100,000 per pound?
     
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  6. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I'll send you a quick PM. The didrachms are more readily available than the Tets I think.
     
  7. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Man, I wish I had a crab! :D

    Fantastic pickup, Collect89!

    Erin
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

  9. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    That is one awesome crab! Wow! So you only have about 2 dozen coins left to have one of each city on Sicily. I can see a collecting theme for you, did they make coins?
     
  10. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Awesome coin. I love some of these ancients... ahhh. "Must save money, must save money...."
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Technically speaking I am not happy with listing the N as retrograde. Actually all of the legend left of the eagle is read right to left alternating from the left to right legend behind his back. This is called boustrophedon or as the ox plows writing and was common in early Greek. You can tell which lines get read right to left by which way the letters that differ point. Here only the N and the Sigma at the end change when they are reversed. It is a nice coin!

    My didrachm is smaller and abbreviates the legend but the second part is reversed AK above and PA backwards below the eagle.
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    The little litra has the same split but shows the archaic Greek form of R that looks like our R rather than our P. Of course the R is backwards.
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  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Very interesting, thanks! I did not know that.
     
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I agree with TIF but would extend the range to include all of Magna Graecia.
     
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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice Akragas crab, C89 ... very cool addition!! (congrats)

    oh, and awesome coins all the way around, gang!!


    :rolleyes:
     
  15. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    The coins that TIF posted start to fill the map nicely.:)
    Map and all coins 2.jpg My laptop is going to the laptop doctor right now so my photoshop fun is over for now.

    Edit to add Bing's Gela.
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2016
  16. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Thank you Doug!
     
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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Love the crab. Congrats.
    Sicily Gela.jpg
    GELA, SICILY
    AR Litra
    OBV: Naked horseman galloping left holding spear & shield
    REV: Forepart of man-headed bull right
    Struck at Gela, Sicily, 425BC
    0.36g; 13mm
    SNG Cop 275, BMC 52, Jenkins 405; HGC 2 374
    SICILY, SYRACUSE, HIERON II 3.jpg
    SICILY, SYRACUSE, HIERON II
    AE19
    OBVERSE: Head of Persephone left, wreathed with corn, wearing earring and necklace
    REVERSE: Bull butting left
    Struck at Syracuse, Sicily 275-265 BC
    4.3g; 17mm
    BMC. Sicily, p 219, 624
    SICILY, SYRACUSE, HIERON II 1.jpg
    SICILY, SYRACUSE, HIERON II
    AE19 OBVERSE: Head of Poseidon left
    REVERSE: IEP-ONOS, ornamented trident of Poseidon
    Struck at Syracuse, Sicily 275-216 BC
    6.5g; 19mm
    SG 1223
    SICILY, KAMARINA.jpg
    SICILY, KAMARINA
    Æ Tetras
    OBV: Helmeted head of Athena left
    REV: KAMA, owl standing left, head facing, grasping lizard; three pellets in exergue
    Struck at Kamarina, Sicily, 420-405 BC
    2.9g; 15.2 mm
    Calciati 33; BMC 40; SNG ANS 1229; SNG Cop 169
    SICILY, PUNIC 4.jpg
    CARTHAGE/SICILY-PUNIC
    AE20
    OBVERSE: Date palm tree with fruit
    Rev: Horse head
    Struck at Zeugitana, Carthage or Siculo-Punic, 3d-4th Century BC
    8.2g, 20mm
    SNG Cop-103
     
  18. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    My last post with photos until Monday I think:
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => yeah, my favourites!!

    Ummm, I have "Kainon" Sicily ... I don't see it on your map? (good enough?)

    griffin & horse a.jpg griffin & horse b.jpg

    http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/sicily/kainon/i.html



    o_O

    Man, it would be nice to have "this example" eh? (below, sadly not my coin)

    kainon not mine.jpg



     
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  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I believe Kainon means new and the legend is not intended to give the city name. These were attributed to Alaisa or a mercenary camp mint depending on who you read.
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  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    "Missed it by that much"

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    wow, thanks Doug => that's even more cool .... this stuff never gets old, eh?

    => my name is stevex6 and I'm a coinaholic!! ...
    and lovin' it!!

    cheers
     
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