3 possible RPM

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Sullysullinburg, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. Sullysullinburg

    Sullysullinburg Well-Known Member

    Hey everyone,

    I recently got my Dino-Lite and was going through some of my coins looking for errors. Here are three coins i think have RPMs along with what RPM I think they are.

    1943-S RPM unknown, possible first identified G-04
    1943-s rpm s north.jpg
    1963-D RPM WRPM-001 http://doubleddie.com/1237766.html XF-40
    1963-d rpm ddd.jpg
    1964-D RPM possible WRPM-004 http://doubleddie.com/1237766.html VF-30
    1964-d rmp east.jpg
    I'm looking for anyone to confirm these are in fact RPMs and if someone could tell me values of them. Yes I know you can't tell without full photos of the coin, but I can't post photos of the full coin yet. I put the grade next to each coin so if you could give me a rough estimate of price, that would be really helpful. Thanks for anything!
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    1) no

    What dates & denominations are they?
     
  4. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    My goodness... so much magnification? Can we have some photos of the whole coin so we can see what it looks like before put under an electron microscope? I think you're overmagnifying and finding things that aren't really there. I'm not sure why you can't get a photo of the full coin, you can do that with any camera by pointing and clicking. @Treashunt these are all quarters

    These all look like MD to me and let me explain why. Do you see the second link you provided "1963-D RPM WRPM-001 http://doubleddie.com/1237766.html XF-40" Look at the diagnostics for it. Yours is at best a maybe. Take a photo to match the other two photos in the example provided and see if you have the same die markers. Yours look like the same D got punched in like a stutter step, as if it got punched more than once when being struck (machine doubling). The website shows one where three different Ds were struck on top of themselves.

    The last one can't be the 004 because the D is rotated the wrong direction and it's flat, typical of machine doubling. Why don't you take some time to look at the diagnostics for the 004, like the die scratch and see if you can find it on the coin? The good thing about die markers is that they will tell you other markers on the coin, besides the mint mark itself, that signify it's an error. Like the accented hair Kennedy Half Dollar. I have no idea the difference between the two Kennedy Halves, but I can look at the diagnostics of the coin to tell which is and is not. I don't even look at the hair, I look at the reverse.

    1964-kennedy-accented-hair-obverse.jpg 1964-kennedy-accented-hair-reverse.jpg

    I applaud your zeal in trying to find errors, but as a young collector, you are going about this backwards. You need to be using a 5-10x loupe that gives you the ability to look at the whole coin. You're dialing in to a very small part of the coin and missing the bigger picture. Spend some time reading about die markers and you'll be able to answer these questions on your own.
     

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  5. pr69

    pr69 Member

    Seattlite86, you mention that you look at diagnostics on the reverse to determine if a 1964 Kennedy is of the Accented Hair variety. Be careful -- there is a Transitional Variety that has those diagnostics on the reverse but a "normal" obverse. So I just want to mention here that it's worth looking for diagnostics on the obverse (missing serif on the "I"). I agree, looking at the hair alone does not work for me -- I can't see it!
     
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  6. Sullysullinburg

    Sullysullinburg Well-Known Member

    Photos of the whole coin coming soon, although idk how it will help. Yes they are all quarters derp on my part. I see the diagnostics but the coin in worn so it might have diminished them. There is no way you could see this with 5x-10x magnification.
     
  7. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Well, to each their own, but if I can't see it under a 10x loupe, I don't think it matters. If someone has to take a microscope to see your "error" they're never going to appreciate it... IMHO
     
  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I absolutely agree, 100%.

    That is one reason I have such a problem with so many VAMS.
     
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