Opinion of grade - 1940-S Jefferson

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  1. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg To get good images I had to reduce the glare. This hides the luster some. I added an image of the reverse without reducing the glare to show how frosty it is. The steps have a couple of dings, and there is a nick above the left side of the dome. Other than that, this thing looks exceptional to me. I paid $6.74 for this one. How did I do? I purchased 2 more Jeffersons I want you guys to grade. I'll post them later. They are really nice toners. These three are without a doubt the best Jeffersons I own. I started out loving Jeffs, then gravitated over to Lincolns, after completing a circulated set and a proof set from 1953-2014 (minus the '94 & '97 matte proofs, but including both types of 1979 & 1981). These 3 have renewed my love for the Jefferson nickel for sure! Thanks all!
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Paul @Lehigh96 would probably be the best to ask.

    Chris
     
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  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    possibly 66
     
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  5. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    I'm thinking 65 at best. My eye is drawn right to the reverse nick. I'm not familiar with the type, but I just have a feeling it's a deal killer for a high gem. Luster looks wonderful, though!
     
  6. Santinidollar

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  7. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Here are some recent examples of NGC-graded 1940 S Jeffersons for a reference:

    MS64 6 Full Steps

    1940 S Jefferson Nickel NGC MS646FS.jpg

    MS65 6 Full Steps

    1940 S Jefferson Nickel NGC MS656FS.jpg

    MS66 #1

    1940 S Jefferson Nickel NGC MS66 1.jpg

    MS66 #2

    1940 S Jefferson Nickel NGC MS66 2.jpg
     
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  8. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    This coin has characteristics that may reduce its value or grade. above the Monticello, if there are harshly cleaning marks on the Reverse removes value from your coin but if these die polish marks they may not reduce the value that much. It would then related as how that surface effected eye appeal cannot tell which they are based on these photos. Statistics say this coin in probably a MS64 to MS66 In a PCGS Slab ~$8 to $25. Can you get a good photo of the Reverse with the top tilted down and away from the camera with the light slighlty higher than camera 30 degree angle facing pictured area.
     
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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The reverse is going to drag the grade down to a 64, maybe 65.
     
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  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    65 also
     
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  12. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Those are clashes on the reverse and a mint worker try to grind them away ....
     
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  13. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    I'll get the reverse image in a few, but they are polish marks. Take a look at the ponytail on the obverse. You can still see the remnants of the top of the building from the clash. You can't see it in the photos, but the O from the word MONTECELLO is at the back of Jefferson's head. They got most of the clash marks on the reverse, but left some on the obverse.
     
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  14. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the images. I'll study them in detail in a little while.

    If I'm not mistaken, you are into Type B Washington quarters, right? If so, I also won a BU 1961 type B. It has a contact mark from the reeding of another coin on his neck, but otherwise appears to be very nice. I'll get a thread started later in the error coins section. I'd love your opinion on it if you don't mind.
     
  15. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    As long as the lines above Monticello are die polish lines I'm in the 65 crowd. (Seems plausible as the dies are clashed) The two hits on the reverse are unfortunate, otherwise it's an easy 66.
     
  16. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    image.jpg image.jpg I take better images at night. Daylight screws up my lighting. Here is a feeble attempt at the angled images with inadequate lighting. For some reason, wrong lighting makes me loose resolution (makes it fuzzy).

    The marks at the far left look like scratches in the photos, but the are polish marks also. The die clean up marks go in many directions.
     
  17. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    I hate to say it, but I'm feeling more like 64 now. It might squeak to 65. Too many marks on Monticello and the field hit is still a deal breaker for me.
     
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  18. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    I Understand. That ding is the very first thing I see when I look at the reverse. Very distracting.
     
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  19. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    65-the nick in the field and stair dings hurt it but nice toning...
     
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  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    My lousy eyes finally see the ding, so I will pull back to a 65. Still a sharp coin.
     
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  21. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    The Obverse looks every bit as good as MS66-67 but I cannot get past the Reverse Images .. I would have to go MS64 as an overall grade at best.
     
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